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| Jacob/Lee:
--- Quote from: Captain Crazy on December 25, 2011, 11:55:45 PM ---but are ogres just big walls of meat for pummeling invaders? --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Ogre Wiki Page ---Adult body size 6,000,000 cm3 --- End quote --- Yes. For comparison, goblins are 60,000 cm3 at full size and dwarves are the same. Humans are 70,000 cm3 full size, and humans are the biggest (in terms of size) civilized race. Also, sometimes when I try to click things on the main page I end up downloading stuff, like index.gz. Why do I keep doing that? |
| Captain Crazy:
--- Quote from: heedicalking on December 26, 2011, 12:09:44 AM ---how do u start as goblin --- End quote --- [CIV_CONTROLLABLE] --- Quote from: Jacob/Lee on December 26, 2011, 12:10:30 AM ---Yes. For comparison, goblins are 60,000 cm3 at full size and dwarves are the same. Humans are 70,000 cm3 full size, and humans are the biggest (in terms of size) civilized race. --- End quote --- oh holy will there be any sort of seiges when going Goblin? or do the "good" races leave them alone? |
| Jacob/Lee:
--- Quote from: Captain Crazy on December 26, 2011, 12:11:59 AM ---oh holy will there be any sort of seiges when going Goblin? or do the "good" races leave them alone? --- End quote --- Natural hostility is determined through ethics I believe, and goblins are basically anarchists. This puts them at odds with other races and it's likely everything on the planet will be out to kill you. |
| Captain Crazy:
--- Quote from: Jacob/Lee on December 26, 2011, 12:15:28 AM ---Natural hostility is determined through ethics I believe, and goblins are basically anarchists. This puts them at odds with other races and it's likely everything on the planet will be out to kill you. --- End quote --- that should be interesting. |
| Jacob/Lee:
Yeah, reading Toady's post on ethics and looking at the wiki a bit shows that hostility is pretty much always caused by ethics. I'll cut it short, if race A and B both have [ACCEPTABLE] for all matters (which isn't the case in the vanilla game) they'll be best buds during worldgen. However, if race A has [ACCEPTABLE] for everything and race B has [UNTHINKABLE] for everything then they'll be at each others throats all the time, I think. It seems wars can just randomly start as well, which is why you see humans and elves fighting despite their ethics being close enough to each other to keep them at peace. http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Ethic#Ethics_values http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=22151.msg240207#msg240207 --- Quote from: Goblin Ethics --- [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL] [ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:VANDALISM:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:THEFT:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:ASSAULT:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:SLAVERY:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:PERSONAL_MATTER] [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE] [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE] --- End quote --- Everything is either [ACCEPTABLE] or [PERSONAL_MATTER], which is likely to piss off every race in the vanilla game. |
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