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| Big Brother's server - Q:How should votekick be used? |
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| Lugnut:
I was on Big Brother's ONE MAN ARMY / BOSS server earlier today, and BB was afk off in a corner. I was still loading datablocks, so I did not witness the first few times players were being spawnkilled by the Spy class and their butterfly knives. TwenteFreak was trying to explain why the boss needs random spawns. --- Quote ---[11:04:03][TwenteFreak]: giro u suk [11:04:22][Vampil]: I hit him at the start with a butterfly knife [11:04:26][Vampil]: ;:D [11:04:37][TwenteFreak]: That's why the boss needs random spawns [11:04:46][TwenteFreak]: So cigarettes like you can't spawnkill him [11:04:52][Vampil]: Lol [11:04:56][Vampil]: Says the freak [11:05:03][Vampil]: who doesn't scope [11:05:07][Hoogle]: i wanna be spawnekilled --- End quote --- IkeTheGeneric, the resident admin, makes a new temporary rule. --- Quote ---[11:05:09][IkeTheGeneric]: Temporary server rule: Complaining gets you a kick --- End quote --- I then play troll for a second and state the following --- Quote ---[11:05:21][Lugnut1206]: Ike [...] [11:05:37][Lugnut1206]: Vampil and Hoogle and Twente are complaining [11:05:39][Lugnut1206]: kick them please --- End quote --- Vampil and Hoogle then start acting totally confused, as they well should be as I was attempting to lighten the atmosphere I was then kicked for complaining by Ike No big deal, I had complained, rule was, no complaining. --- Quote ---[11:05:56][IkeTheGeneric]: He was complaining about you complaining [11:05:58][Hoogle]: I was complimenting Ike's new rules which I like. [11:05:59][TwenteFreak]: Oh and vampil is just being a dumbass [11:06:02][Hoogle]: lol [11:06:02][Lugnut1206]: thats what I figured [11:06:06][Lugnut1206]: lol >>>Vampil starts a votekick against TwenteFreak. [11:06:13][Vampil]: Reason you think I am a dumbass, twente? [11:06:13][IkeTheGeneric]: You complained about them complaining --- End quote --- I mention Hoogles drama about him exploiting votekick, as TwenteFreak explains why he hates Vampil. --- Quote ---[11:06:22][Lugnut1206]: hoogle, did you just have a drama about you exploiting votekick? [11:06:27][TwenteFreak]: Because I think you're a dumbass [11:06:28][TwenteFreak]: There [11:06:29][Lugnut1206]: didn't you just* [11:06:31][TwenteFreak]: Deal with it --- End quote --- Ike states the obvious, --- Quote ---[11:06:40][IkeTheGeneric]: There is a votekick enabled --- End quote --- and hoogle doesn't answer my question. Meanwhile, Vampil and Twente are still arguing over Vampil spawnkilling Twente. --- Quote ---[11:06:45][Vampil]: That's not a reason, that just proves you don't know what you are talking about. --- End quote --- The votekick against Twente fails, and Twente starts a votekick against Vampil. --- Quote ---[11:07:05][Lugnut1206]: I'm wondering if Hoogle is the guy that had the drama about it [11:07:14][Lugnut1206]: yes he is [11:07:17][Vampil]: Twente doesn't have a reason to call me a dumbass so for no reason he just votekicks me. [11:07:25][TwenteFreak]: Yeah --- End quote --- The votekick, for reasons I am unsure of, succeeds. --- Quote ---[11:07:25][Lugnut1206]: we'll wait untill he does something stupid [11:07:28][TwenteFreak]: Deal with it [11:07:33][Lugnut1206]: /no >>>Vampil kicked for 5 minutes. [11:07:37][TwenteFreak]: :) [11:07:39][Lugnut1206]: That was gay. [11:07:44][IkeTheGeneric]: CONSOLE?!?!/1?1?!?! --- End quote --- As expected, someone, in this case, Twente, jumps on me. --- Quote ---[11:07:46][TwenteFreak]: Are you complaining? [11:07:54][IkeTheGeneric]: wat [11:07:58][Lugnut1206]: I suppose not --- End quote --- I didn't feel like getting kicked again, less than three minutes from the last time, so I said no. Nothing happens for nearly a minute and a half, an Vampil comes back (without dealing with the full ban time???). --- Quote ---[11:08:41][Hoogle]: wb vamp [11:08:43][Lugnut1206]: WB Vampil [11:08:48][Vampil]: Hm? [11:08:49][TwenteFreak]: lol [11:08:51][Hoogle]: welcome back [11:08:54][Lugnut1206]: Welcome back --- End quote --- Vampil attempts revenge on Twente. --- Quote ---[11:09:11][TwenteFreak]: Hmm [11:09:27][TwenteFreak]: This is just sad [11:09:27][Hoogle]: /no, I'm against votekick abuse. [11:09:27][Pecon7]: I have to see how much me server did and did not get ripped off =P [11:09:28][::SpaceMan::]: Nooeh [11:09:28][Vampil]: Not rage, just a payback from how you votekicked for no reason. >>> Ike cancels the votekick. [11:09:32][TwenteFreak]: It's rage [11:09:35][IkeTheGeneric]: I unbanned you [11:09:35][TwenteFreak]: You're mad [11:09:45][Vampil]: mad? [11:09:48][Vampil]: How? --- End quote --- I start piecing things together. --- Quote ---[11:10:10][Lugnut1206]: Let me get this straight [11:10:20][Lugnut1206]: You just canceled a votekick... >>>Ike creates a votekick against Twente. [11:10:25][Lugnut1206]: now you;re making a new one >>>Then cancels it. [11:10:27][Vampil]: That's what you get. [11:10:31][Lugnut1206]: Seriously? [11:10:37][TwenteFreak]: heh [11:10:38][IkeTheGeneric]: I canceled it --- End quote --- Vampil trys to argue his point. --- Quote ---[11:10:44][Vampil]: Saying I'm raging doesn't make up for your retartedness. [11:10:55][Magibowser]: ^ lololo [11:10:59][TwenteFreak]: I'm pretty sure you're mad --- End quote --- I try to back Vampil. --- Quote ---[11:11:13][Lugnut1206]: And I'm pretty sure you kicked him for little reason --- End quote --- [11 minutes during which nothing of interest happened, Twente seems to have left] Arkal (The current boss) starts acting like a handicap. --- Quote ---[11:21:41][Arkal]: Wow, these guns are the same weapon damage as yours [11:21:42][Arkal]: they suck [11:21:51][Vampil]: Arkal [11:21:53][Hoogle]: we don't have your health. [11:21:58][Vampil]: To you, everything sucks. [11:21:59][Paradon]: I WILL BE POPULAR HUEHUE [11:22:03][Vampil]: Stop complaining. [11:22:05][Arkal]: no it does not [11:22:08][Paradon]: I'm diffrent ;-; [11:22:10][Vampil]: Well, stop. [11:22:10][Arkal]: You loving perv [11:22:12][IkeTheGeneric]: NO COMPLAINING [11:22:12][Arkal]: I do [11:22:12][Paolo]: :OOO [11:22:18][IkeTheGeneric]: WHATSOEVER [11:22:20][Klarck]: wooo --- End quote --- Now the fun begins. --- Quote ---[11:23:04][Lugnut1206]: Is the boss afk? [11:23:08][mouse droid21 (pepsi n)]: no [11:23:10][Paolo]: :O [11:23:11][Vampil]: WOW [11:23:11][Hoogle]: woah sorry [11:23:14][Hoogle]: sorry [11:23:16][Lugnut1206]: Oh no, we just spawnkilled them. [11:23:19][Lugnut1206]: Lovely. [11:23:21][Hoogle]: I was putting the knife down to say [11:23:37][Lugnut1206]: Wtf ike [11:23:44][Hoogle]: I was putting the kife down to say there is a afk prevention in both places [11:23:47][IkeTheGeneric]: Tell me why you kicked him [11:23:49][Hoogle]: as soon as i did [11:23:50][Hoogle]: he spawned. [11:23:54][Lugnut1206]: Because he spawnkilled [11:23:54][Vampil]: no rule against spawnkill [11:23:56][Hoogle]: Ike they will say I spawnkilled them [11:24:00][Hoogle]: (not technically spawnkill) [11:24:00][Lugnut1206]: There should be. [11:24:01][IkeTheGeneric]: No rule against it [11:24:14][Lugnut1206]: then what is 'technically spawnkill'? [11:24:15][Vampil]: LAG [11:24:26][Ryo55]: An indirect spawnkill? [11:24:26][IkeTheGeneric]: There is none, shut up [11:24:26][Paolo]: OOOO [11:24:27][Hoogle]: When you kill someone when they spawn [11:24:31][Hoogle]: Not when they teleport lol [11:24:46][Hoogle]: you should say [11:24:49][Lugnut1206]: Thats a bullstuff technicality. [11:24:52][Hoogle]: Hoogle SetPlayerTransformKilled! [11:24:59][Bull Dog]: wat? [11:25:00][Bull Dog]: lol [11:25:00][Lugnut1206]: Good enough for me [11:25:04][Lugnut1206]: Thats why we kicked him ike. [11:25:09][Hoogle]: :) [11:25:12][Bull Dog]: kicked who? [11:25:16][Lugnut1206]: Because he killed the guy once he got into the kitchen. --- End quote --- TL;DR (I am not responsible for lack of clarity) - I attempt to votekick Hoogle for spawnkilling, Ike cancels vote and asks why I started it, I state I did because he spawnkilled, Hoogle argues that my kick is wrong because he didn't technically spawnkill him, he killed him after he chose his class and teleported in. Arkal remains a handicap. Ike kicks. --- Quote ---[11:26:09][Arkal]: he just spades you hoogle [11:26:10][Arkal]: See [11:26:16][Arkal]: loving wimp/[ussy [11:26:20][Arkal]: pusillanimous individual* [11:26:32][Paolo]: DwdaEfijijgi;aowgjpoehjf;oijewofjw [11:26:33][Magibowser]: Thanks [11:26:39][Arkal]: O_O [11:26:44][IkeTheGeneric]: I'm not sure you got my loving gist [11:26:46][IkeTheGeneric]: NO COMPLAINING [11:26:53][Hoogle]: Look I am sorry to everyone for not breaking a rule [11:26:54][Arkal]: Im not complaining. [11:26:56][Hoogle]: It won't happen again [11:27:02][IkeTheGeneric]: hmm looks like you were --- End quote --- Arkal goes gone. 6 minutes later, Vampil spawnkills the boss... again. --- Quote ---[11:33:53][Vampil]: ganeral [11:33:54][Magibowser]: If Bull Dog goes out, he's certainly killed [11:34:01][Lugnut1206]: Spawn - in - kitchen killing <<< I state why I want him kicked, as per 'protocol' [11:34:05][Vampil]: there's no rule against it [11:34:08][Lugnut1206]: whatevber the forget you wanna [call it] [11:34:12][Hoogle]: If your the boss get ready to run >>>IkeTheGeneric cancels vote. [11:34:13][Klarck]: but we want to kick you [11:34:22][Hoogle]: 'we' [11:34:32][Klarck]: well... i want to kick you [11:34:33][Lugnut1206]: Implying eeveryone who voted yes. [11:34:38][Lugnut1206]: and me. --- End quote --- Klarck appears on my side, Hoogle trolls, and Ike's blood pressure rises. --- Quote ---[11:34:38][Klarck]: you did the same for me [11:34:41][Vampil]: I hit him 5 times [11:34:49][Magibowser]: Burn bitch, BURN [11:34:49][Vampil]: and klarck [11:34:49][IkeTheGeneric]: Guys shut the forget up [11:34:50][Hoogle]: If Im the boss I want you guys to try spawn kill me [11:34:50][Lugnut1206]: Hit who five times? [11:34:51][Klarck]: and its super handicapped and not cool [11:34:51][Hoogle]: I like challenge [11:34:54][IkeTheGeneric]: There's no rule against it --- End quote --- I attempt to argue why we should be able to votekick people we want gone. --- Quote ---[11:34:54][Lugnut1206]: Ike [11:34:55][Vampil]: you spawnkilled too [11:34:56][IkeTheGeneric]: THATS IT [11:35:01][Lugnut1206]: We want to votekick them [11:35:03][Klarck]: so what? [11:35:06][Lugnut1206]: it doesn't matter if theres a rule [11:35:07][IkeTheGeneric]: Good for you [11:35:11][Klarck]: you did the same for me [11:35:13][mouse droid21 (pepsi n)]: ms sam: hogole should i stfu? [11:35:14][Magibowser]: IkeTheGeneric, plase finish anyone who is being a handicap or this will turn out like Pecon's server [11:35:15][Klarck]: i want to do that too [11:35:16][Vampil]: and? --- End quote --- I am then kicked by Ike, probably for complaining. I return. --- Quote ---[11:37:31][Vampil]: Hello. [11:37:36][Lugnut1206]: Hi. [11:37:36][Vampil]: Having fun? [11:37:40][Lugnut1206]: Not really. [11:37:40][IkeTheGeneric]: Now quit it with your stuff --- End quote --- What stuff? Wanting to votekick people because I don't like the way they spawnkill people? Isn't that the purpose of the votekick mod? --- Quote ---[11:37:44][Lugnut1206]: But I'm not complaining. [11:37:49][Vampil]: You were. [11:37:55][Lugnut1206]: I suppose. [11:37:59][Vampil]: You might aswell do it now too. [11:38:03][Lugnut1206]: We'll let BB be the final deciding factor on that. [11:38:12][Vampil]: big brother? [11:38:15][Lugnut1206]: Yes. [11:38:16][IkeTheGeneric]: For what? [11:38:25][Vampil]: I'm sure he will understand you're just being an idiot. [11:38:31][Lugnut1206]: Pretty much everything that just happened in the last half an hour. [11:38:44][Vampil]: It will be your own ban [11:38:47][Vampil]: Don't isk it [11:38:53][Lugnut1206]: If he feels that way, fine. <As in, if he wants to ban me [11:38:55][IkeTheGeneric]: Lugnut [11:38:55][Vampil]: I might feel bad --- End quote --- Interestingly Ike, I'm not banned (last I checked). Magibowser pulls out the simple phrases. --- Quote ---[11:39:02][IkeTheGeneric]: You have nothing going for you if you continue down this road [11:39:14][Lugnut1206]: I will have stood up for what I felt was right, and if he disagrees, then this isn't the server for me. [11:39:17][Magibowser]: Shut up, you [11:39:23][Magibowser]: you're just digging yourself a deeper hole [11:39:23][Vampil]: lol [11:39:25][Lugnut1206]: Thats all there is too it. [11:39:28][IkeTheGeneric]: You aren't right --- End quote --- I feel right, even if I'm not. I have messaged BB over RTB, and I am now awaiting his responce, so I say, forget it, lets play. --- Quote ---[11:39:34][Lugnut1206]: Now, can we drop it temporarily? [11:39:38][Lugnut1206]: and [11:39:39][Lugnut1206]: I dunno [11:39:40][IkeTheGeneric]: Just drop it completely [11:39:40][Lugnut1206]: play? [11:39:49][IkeTheGeneric]: Don' [11:39:51][Vampil]: lugnut is suddenly scared [11:39:53][Magibowser]: Why is everyone a magician? [11:39:54][IkeTheGeneric]: Don't do that stuff at me [11:40:04][IkeTheGeneric]: It's your own loving fault you got kicked <<< I'm missing the point here, I know it is my own fault. Can anyone clear this up? [11:40:11][Vampil]: agreed [11:40:16][Klarck]: look at me [11:40:19][Lugnut1206]: What stuff at you? --- End quote --- Magibowser attempts to calm me down forcefully, when I'm not even angry. --- Quote ---[11:40:30][Magibowser]: Lugnut, calm your tits [11:40:34][Hoogle]: ^ [11:40:37][Lugnut1206]: You do that [11:40:43][Lugnut1206]: I'm done with it for now [11:40:48][Klarck]: gtfo [11:40:51][Vampil]: Lugnut [11:40:57][Vampil]: Magi doesn't have to calm [11:41:07][Vampil]: He isn't raging and trolling in the first place. [11:42:01][Hoogle]: so laggeh :( [11:42:10][Vampil]: Ike [11:42:10][IkeTheGeneric]: A calm shades over the server. All is peaceful. --- End quote --- And indeed there was, for a good, what, three minutes? Then, out of the blue, as Ike is leaving, he bans me for forty minutes. --- Quote ---[11:44:50][Vampil]: Ike [11:44:53][IkeTheGeneric]: Yes? [11:44:57][Vampil]: Accept my friend request? [11:45:05][IkeTheGeneric]: Didn't recieve one [11:45:09][Vampil]: Oh [11:45:14][Vampil]: Maybe it was the wrong guy [11:45:16][Vampil]: lol [11:45:28][IkeTheGeneric]: Sent one to you [11:45:30][Vampil]: k [11:45:37][Magibowser]: IMHO, bosses need more agility >>>NOTE THIS LINE BY MAGIBOWSER [11:45:40][Vampil]: Didn't recieve any [11:45:48][IkeTheGeneric]: Then RTB must be having issues [11:45:50][Vampil]: Weird. [11:46:02][Magibowser]: FFFUUU [11:46:09][IkeTheGeneric]: i need to go [11:46:25][Lugnut1206]: Are you sure thats not your unhonest opinion? >>>I reference said line in the sense of a lighthearted joke. [11:46:36][Vampil]: What is >>>Banned for 40 minutes. Reason: "yes i am" --- End quote --- My question to you, blockland forums, is not "omg ike is badass shud he be bnaned" but instead are the following. Q:Should votekick be used only for enforcing the rules, or should it also be used for keeping the server free of people who ruin the game for other people? Q:Was Ikes final 40 minute ban just?\ Q:Should spawnkilling be allowed in this kind of gamemode, or even in any kind of game? My responces, for whatever they're worth, for said questions are as follows. A:It should be used for keeping the server fun and enjoyable for all players. A:... I obviously feel it wasn't, as I had done nothing to provoke him or break the rules after the final bout. A:Why should it? FINALLY: Full unedited chatlogs are here. Discuss, please. |
| Lugnut:
Another small note: I am well aware the server is Big Brothers, and whatever happens is his choice and his choice alone. I'm thinking on a broader scale here. |
| Custard:
you should have just left the server. It's not functional; there's corruption in the administrative force, and the people are barbaric. |
| Lugnut:
I would have, except that the server is good. I just don't like these two policies. Namely, IkeTheGeneric And an inability to use votekick. |
| Hoogle:
I'm sorry but the admin specifically said there was no rule against that. Why are you trying to enforce a rule on another server. You may find it fairer ect but it doesn't happen to be a rule there so I don't know why you are getting annoyed when it was explained. The reason Ike was cancelling the votekicks was because people tried to votekick those who didn't break a rule (a server rule not a personally imposed rule) Custard there is no corruption in the administrative force. Ike was enforcing the rules of the server it's not his fault you two disagree with the rules but he was not being corrupt. Personally I am all for any type of kill. In my games I allow spawnkills,ect. However I do make it very hard to actually spawnkill in my games, but if a player manages it, good job. However just because that is my personal rules I don't feel I should enforce it on other peoples servers and neither should you. As to your questions about my drama I never saw those. |
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