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Pokémon VG Megathread
naturemon:
--- Quote from: Cargøn on January 24, 2014, 12:19:24 AM ---So if chain breeding works the way I think it does could I in theory pass storm throw from throh to a pangoro to bidoof to clauncher to binacle?
the reason being a sniper pokemon with an always crit move like storm throw can pump out roughly 135 damage if my calculations are correct without the help of items
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I don't think just any move could be passed so I'm going with no.
Anyways, started making my new team.
I'm turning a Trevenant into my defensive tank.
It will have Harvest+Sitrus Berry, be EV trained in Def and HP, Impish nature.
Moveset:
Horn Leech
Will O Wisp
Phantom Force
Rock Slide
I feel like this is a bit too aggressive for a tank but I can't think of another move set, and with Rock Slide it allows it to hit Ice, fire and flying.
Any suggestions? (Horn Leach I prefer over Wood Hammer because it lets me steal hp back)
Edit: Considering replacing Will o Wisp with Hone Claws/Protect.
Khorde:
--- Quote from: naturemon on January 24, 2014, 10:51:22 AM ---I'm turning a Trevenant into my defensive tank.
It will have Harvest+Sitrus Berry, be EV trained in Def and HP, Impish nature.
Moveset:
Horn Leech
Will O Wisp
Phantom Force
Rock Slide
I feel like this is a bit too aggressive for a tank but I can't think of another move set, and with Rock Slide it allows it to hit Ice, fire and flying.
Any suggestions? (Horn Leach I prefer over Wood Hammer because it lets me steal hp back)
Edit: Considering replacing Will o Wisp with Hone Claws/Protect.
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will o wisp burns. burns lower attack. you're maxing defense. that will leave physical attackers nearly useless against you. special attackers do not get lowered offensive stats, yet you still use will o wisp on them.
what I see happening is a gengar coming around and smashing the living stuff out of it with one shadow ball if you don't put something into special defense. Same could be said about ice beam-ers.
Hone Claws has only one conditional situation where I can see it working, and that's in the case of a switch out. Ultimately, I feel honeclaws is better than will o wisp. Protect is practically just stalling, and without something happening while you're stalling, then it's a wasted slot.
I'm guessing if you maxed its stats at 50, they'd look like this.
hp 192
att 112
def 140
spatk 63
spdef 92
spd 71
that special defense is going to bite you so hard.
ultimately, this is your choice to make. A defensive wall is great, but a tank is better. Covering all bases is where it's at.
naturemon:
--- Quote from: Khorde on January 24, 2014, 11:26:41 AM ---will o wisp burns. burns lower attack. you're maxing defense. that will leave physical attackers nearly useless against you. special attackers do not get lowered offensive stats, yet you still use will o wisp on them.
what I see happening is a gengar coming around and smashing the living stuff out of it with one shadow ball if you don't put something into special defense. Same could be said about ice beam-ers.
Hone Claws has only one conditional situation where I can see it working, and that's in the case of a switch out. Ultimately, I feel honeclaws is better than will o wisp. Protect is practically just stalling, and without something happening while you're stalling, then it's a wasted slot.
I'm guessing if you maxed its stats at 50, they'd look like this.
hp 192
att 112
def 140
spatk 63
spdef 92
spd 71
that special defense is going to bite you so hard.
ultimately, this is your choice to make. A defensive wall is great, but a tank is better. Covering all bases is where it's at.
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I have a Cradily that will be my primary Sp Def/tank as it's got good Def and SpD. If a Gengar/Fast Ice Beamer (primarily Greninja it seems) got sent in I'd be switching out to something else, Trevenant isn't exactly going to be my tank for Def, he's in a weird spot. I'm going to be using him to switch into Physical attackers, maybe get a Hone Claws in and decide what to do from there.
Khorde:
--- Quote from: naturemon on January 24, 2014, 11:35:53 AM ---I have a Cradily that will be my primary Sp Def/tank as it's got good Def and SpD. If a Gengar/Fast Ice Beamer (primarily Greninja it seems) got sent in I'd be switching out to something else, Trevenant isn't exactly going to be my tank for Def, he's in a weird spot. I'm going to be using him to switch into Physical attackers, maybe get a Hone Claws in and decide what to do from there.
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if only trevenant had shadow sneak :(
here's my team so far
lead: espeon
psychic
psyshock
grassknot
dazzling gleam
max spatk spd
modest
magic bounce
back up lead: Greninja
ice beam
hydro pump
dark pulse
taunt
max spd/spatk
timid
protean
Bulk: Ferrothorn
gyro ball
powerwhip
thunderwave
leech seed
max hp - half spdef def
adamant
iron barbs
STank: Chandelure
flamethrower
shadowball
e ball
something else, maybe hidden power
max hp/spatk
modest
PTank: Heracross
megahorn
earthquake
close combat
stone edge
max hp/atk
adamant
and a loving dragonite
dragon dance
thunderpunch
fire punch
outrage
jolly
max spd att
im only using this team while i wait for poke bank to come out so i can get my entire box of comp pokes from black version.
gah it looks so loving bad
naturemon:
--- Quote from: Khorde on January 24, 2014, 11:44:33 AM ---if only trevenant had shadow sneak :(
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I was hoping it did, was disappointed to see it didn't.