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Mr_Grinch14:

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--- Quote from: Azerath on June 26, 2007, 08:47:31 PM ---I'm pandaing saying that this pandaing clan isn't pandaing meant to pandaing kill people. Its just a pandaing clan. If you were to make the kool kids klub clan and bomb people and stuff that would be pandaing wrong. If you were pandaing dumb enough to do it. If its just the pandaing name it doesn't pandaing matter.

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Yes, a name does matter, if you think it doesn't, why not just take a marker and write national socialist on a white shirt and start walking around town like that?
Yes it's just a name, but it has a really bad association, which people could take the wrong way, even though you had no intention to kill anyone.


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How is this any different than USSR?


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For this clan, its not just a name its an ideal
TheCannon187:
By my understanding, and I welcome any corrections;

- Both Communism and national socialistsm began as a form of labour party, I know for sure that communism is a system (or theory) that favors the workers, the labourers, and the tradesmen. One principle of communism, is that the worker should be entitled to be paid the cost of the product that he creates. This principle does not work very well in our world because of an ever changing global economy, where profits matter, the ladder of the communist system is something like this:


- Product (worth $50)(multiplied by number of products created in one month)-> Example number is 5000, the product value is $250000 per month, per worker (if the worker makes 5000 items
- Worker (earns $50)(multiplied by number of products created in one month) -> $50 x 5000: The worker will earn $250000 in one month
- Company (gets nothing?)(the worker has been paid the cost of creating the product, therefore the company earns no money and is therefore bankrupt)(the company is no longer able to create products or sell them)

In some sense, communism favors the individual worker instead of the corporation, but severely limits the economy with a possible lack of quality goods, paying the cost of an item; only to sell it at the same price is like 1-1=0. There is no payoff for the worker, unless the worker pays nothing for his materials, which usually limits him to wood and stone. Which are almost always free.

In our society it works much like this:

- Product (worth $50)(multiplied by number created in one month) -> $50 x 5000 = The product will provide the company with $250000 from one employee, as long as the item is in demand.
- Worker (Is paid an average of $11 an hour)(multiplied by number of hours)(average number of working hours is (8hrs per day, 5 days per week, 4 weeks per month) 160 per month)  -> $11 x $T(tax rate or: T) x 160 = 1760T
- Company (earns $250000 - 1760 for every employee that creates the product, which is a profit of $248240 every month)(this allows the consistent sale of a product to the global market, and usually means that the product will improve in quality; as there is money left over for research and improvements to the manufacturing process, which will lower the price, and may remove the employee from the picture with automated manufacturing)




The most important difference between communism and capitalism are cultural. People countries that do not have modern technology may live in wooden shacks, fish/hunt to feed their families, etc... This opens the economy on an individual level, meaning that if one person, and one person only is able to perform a service, or provide a product; this person's product is then valued, as there is a limit to how many times, and which places it may be provided to.

The main difference between national socialistsm and Communism are quite vast, the original national socialist party was an organization of German workers who preferred racial segregation, and the removal of the Jewish from matters of economy and politics. Though I am unsure of how the national socialist economy may be separate from that of Capitalist and Communist schemes.
Terror:
tldr.
Facechild:
Only complete morons say TL;DR. try reading an intelligent post once and a while.
Ronin:
I think it's sad when people take gimmick clans too seriously. Give it a rest.
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