Add-on copyright? (Lol?)

[Bisjac]

no mod can alter bl in such a way that it can EVER be unique game/thing. according to your own definition.
simply because the game cannot be modded that well.

its not like just picking up the torque engine and making something new.

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[Otis Da HousKat]

Fairly sure that's only a verification of "this copyright will hold in court", as well as official documentation of that you were first.

Uh ya, that's exactly what I said in the second part of my post that you removed.

[DontCare4Free]

no mod can alter bl in such a way that it can EVER be unique game/thing. according to your own definition.

No, it isn't a matter of whether it makes the game unique, it's a matter of whether it, itself, is unique enough.

brown townogy time:
is copyrightable, since it's a fairly unique image.

wouldn't be because I just painted a few lines in PDN.

By your definition, it would have to alter the image viewer/browser significantly to be copyrightable.

(The alot image is from http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/ and I don't claim any ownership of it)

Uh ya, that's exactly what I said in the second part of my post that you removed.

Was just trying to clarify, not to argue about it.

[Bisjac]

no lol. no mod is unique enough to have a copyright over. bl is still basically unchanged bl no matter what 1000 mods you stack on it.
plus legally mods would belong to badspot anyways. the point of a copyright is to protect credit or earnings. if any of these addons makers tried to take those from badspot using his game's likeness, he could legally claim the software they made as his property.

its never come up because no one is stupid enough to have attempted that

[Custard]

Either way, copywriting builds and mods is a huge waste of time.

Unless someone comes to your house and gets the copywritten data via USB, or hacks the hell out of you (which is expensive and troubling for the criminal, who will by then probably just say "forget it" because it's just worthless code), you're content is already safe from distribution.

The drug mod is now in the hands of many, thanks to the stupid developers, so by this point it doesn't matter.

[DontCare4Free]

no lol. no mod is unique enough to have a copyright over. bl is still basically unchanged bl no matter what 1000 mods you stack on it.
plus legally mods would belong to badspot anyways. the point of a copyright is to protect credit or earnings. if any of these addons makers tried to take those from badspot using his game's likeness, he could legally claim the software they made as his property.

its never come up because no one is stupid enough to have attempted that

It's not a matter of whether BL + mod is unique enough, nor if it changes the game enough.

The only thing that matters is how unique the code itself is.

[Electrk]

And no, I'm not Edmund McMillen or Florian Himsl.

Are you Valve Corporation?

[*FacePalm*]

It's probably not actual copyright, which means having it is not actually illegal, but it's probably a private mod.

it's not hard to copywright something.
just send a 7$(?) check to congress with the thing you want copyrighted.

[Port]

Are you Valve Corporation?

Nope, just me, Gabe Newell.

[Ðionysus64]

This may be a double post, but Psp did this right after I said,"Psp you dirty liar - Drugmod has no copyright!"

[super zario]

Dont we all?

Dont we all?

Agreed

[sir dooble]

no lol. no mod is unique enough to have a copyright over. bl is still basically unchanged bl no matter what 1000 mods you stack on it.
plus legally mods would belong to badspot anyways. the point of a copyright is to protect credit or earnings. if any of these addons makers tried to take those from badspot using his game's likeness, he could legally claim the software they made as his property.

its never come up because no one is stupid enough to have attempted that

I think what DontCare4Free is saying is that as the creator of the mod, you own copyright of the actual model/script for the Add-On.
I wouldn't imagine you could make money off of it for the fact that it's designed around Blockland, something that the mod-maker doesn't own, but you would own the product in the creative sense. I don't know copyright law so I don't know how it works in relation to making a creation that is for someone elses creation, but I'm sure you'd have some rights over the actual pieces that make up the Add-On, particularly the model?

If I made a model for an Add-On in Blockland and I kept it in Blockland, then along comes someone and pinches the model and uses it in another game (Whether as an Add-On or as a model in their own vanilla game) would I have any right to claim that the person who is using my model is infringing on my copyright, assuming I don't give them permission to use it?
Or would Badspot have a claim to it instead?
Or would neither of us?

[blocklandiansprofile]

Your a making a mod for BadSpots game he has the right to claim it as his own since your modifying your version of his game. This doesnt mean they could do anything they want since there game, I mean as in since its a modification for there game they should be able to use it freely.

[DontCare4Free]

I think what DontCare4Free is saying is that as the creator of the mod, you own copyright of the actual model/script for the Add-On.
I wouldn't imagine you could make money off of it for the fact that it's designed around Blockland, something that the mod-maker doesn't own, but you would own the product in the creative sense. I don't know copyright law so I don't know how it works in relation to making a creation that is for someone elses creation, but I'm sure you'd have some rights over the actual pieces that make up the Add-On, particularly the model?

If I made a model for an Add-On in Blockland and I kept it in Blockland, then along comes someone and pinches the model and uses it in another game (Whether as an Add-On or as a model in their own vanilla game) would I have any right to claim that the person who is using my model is infringing on my copyright, assuming I don't give them permission to use it?
Or would Badspot have a claim to it instead?
Or would neither of us?

If I draw a (substantial) picture in PDN then I still own the copyright to that picture even though I didn't make PDN. According to Bisjac's logic it would belong to the makers of PDN.
If I make a (nontrivial) Windows application then I still still own the copyright to that even though I didn't make Windows. According to Bisjac's logic it would belong to Microsoft.

[fred da kiko]

this is the way it works with legal stuff, it is illegal to distribute and make money off of someone else's mod, it is not illegal to link someone to a mod's direct download. it is unethical to distribute someone's mod because it reduces their ad revenue, fame, or both. unethical and illegal are two different things. this also works with other game's mods and texture packs.