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Nethog:
--- Quote from: Doomonkey on December 27, 2012, 05:00:37 PM ---Except proper mages and some fighters/assassins can carry, and that is their role. In the world championships, for example, sometimes a mage, Orianna, would annihilate the enemy team even if their own team was not necessarily leading. This fits the metaphor of picking up your team and carrying them on your back. There are also cases where there may be a ranged AD champion who is doing extremely well, however, the rest of their team is also dealing loads of damage and doing well. In this case the ranged AD champion is not "carrying" their team.
My point is, that unlike other roles, carry is no something you chose to do in champion select. You don't pick a champion and say, "Oh, I am going to carry." Whereas with the other roles, when you pick a champion you also pick the role. When I pick Leblanc I can decide to be an assassin or a mage or both. When I pick Mundo I can be a tank. When I pick Caitlin, I pick to be a high damage dealing champion, being a carry is situational.
tl;dr;
Carry is situational.
The only reason ranged AD damage dealing champions are referred to as AD carries is because it is a much shorter name and that in the meta they are the ones who are supposed to carry. But you should all know that people are not forced to play the meta, and that just because something has become a common term does not mean it is always 100% correct.
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no you're wrong. Caitlyn, Vayne, Corki, Ezreal, etc. are all carrys. They wont carry a team all of the time but thats what they are
like kaph said carrys scale extremely well into late game. Veigar scales extremely well but hes not a carry because he cant do consistant damage.
however ad range arent the only carrys, theres also melee carrys such as fiora and yi (however they arent as good because they have to get close and vulnurable into a fight to do damage)
Doomonkey:
--- Quote from: Nethog on December 27, 2012, 05:48:26 PM ---no you're wrong. Caitlyn, Vayne, Corki, Ezreal, etc. are all carrys. They wont carry a team all of the time but thats what they are
like kaph said carrys scale extremely well into late game. Veigar scales extremely well but hes not a carry because he cant do consistant damage.
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No your definition of carry is off. A carry is not defined as a champion that scales extremely well into late game and does consistent damage. Although those attributes might be frequently associated.
A carry, as defined by the metaphor and Riot games is: A champion which can carry the entire team on their back. This definition does not limit itself to champions who scale well.
You can continue arguing, but your definitions of carry don't make sense according to their base metaphor or to the chief authority of League of Legends.
Nethog:
no.
you dont call someone like olaf,darius and shyv a carry because they carried your team.
you say they carried but they arent a carry.
Doomonkey:
--- Quote from: Nethog on December 27, 2012, 07:10:31 PM ---they carried but they arent a carry.
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Apparently the definition of a carry is not: "One who carries"
Keep on propagating your stupid definitions. Even though the creators of the game describe a carry as someone who carries. And the metaphor from which the term was derived describes a carry as someone who carries.
Nethog:
im talking about when someone says carry you refer to ad champions that use autoattacks as there main dps.
olaf and shy come close to being carries but they their kit is focused on being a bruiser because there abilites do good damage with just ad not lifesteal, crit, atk speed.
however ranged ad champions need to build those things because their kit doesnt allow them to build ad and tanky