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Evar678:

--- Quote from: Stocking on January 21, 2014, 07:27:09 PM ---if you last hit blue with smite, and then go the normal blue > wraiths > red route, smite will still be up in time to last hit red. its a lot better to last hit because if you're going against a good counter-jungler they can easily last hit your red and then gank you with it.

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Then you got a horrible leash / guard and your team should feel bad. This is why 99.9% of the time you start the buff closest to bot lane (purple side -> blue buff, blue side -> red buff), because not only do you have more protection (mid laner + bot adc + support as compared to mid laner + top), providing the intimidation pressure to the enemy team, you get a better leash on your buff. Smiting at 1:55 means that directly afterwards you can rush to your other buff and smite it. From there, if I'm on purple side I'll go wraiths for level 3 and gank mid. On blue il go wight and gank top.

The only good time that you should start the opposite blue is in case your bot lane has a very hard lane, and wants an early (ie level 3) gank, or if the enemy jungler is known to gank you at your second buff (ie shaco, lee sin, shyvanna); you should start the opposite one they think you're starting. Ask your team to trinket ward whichever buff you missed on and coordinate a gank if the enemy tries to steal.

Hiiro326:

--- Quote from: Alkatjo on January 21, 2014, 07:10:25 PM ---I usually split lanes and ask a support to pick up smite intentionally when I'm in the forest picking up reds. That way I can have at least 2 by...say 3 mins?
(including enemy's)
But that's usually when I have my friend play sona, while I follow with Khaz.

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Support getting smite is awful.

Ignite, Teleport, or even exhaust would be better.
For most of the game they would just be wasting a summoner spell.

--- Quote from: Stocking on January 21, 2014, 07:27:09 PM ---if you last hit blue with smite, and then go the normal blue > wraiths > red route, smite will still be up in time to last hit red. its a lot better to last hit because if you're going against a good counter-jungler they can easily last hit your red and then gank you with it.

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This is true, it's better to last hit, but you should be using smite whenever you can. If 30 seconds go by that you don't smite you're missing smite usage.
Every time you go into lane for a gank you should smite.

Should I buy Vi?

Dexxtter:
I always wait for a champion to be free and try them before i buy em because most of the time right after i buy them they become free.

Katadeus:
My luck ran out lol

Ayxrion:
riven is rly fun to play
although its like easy mode: activated (cuz shes like op) shes still fun to play

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