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Planetside 2 - Free2Play - Ultimate Empire Showdown was terrible!! NC buffs soon
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ArmyUnit:
Isn't that just paying real money to get weapons quickly?
F2P players can still get those weapons, it just takes longer for them to do it.

That is not pay to win.
heedicalking:
those weapons cost around $5-10. When I play other games, unlocking weapons doesn't seem to value around $5-10 dollars, or else I would have hundreds of dollars worth of guns and swords. They disguise the fact that its pay2win by placing a ridiculously high in-game point price.
ArmyUnit:
This is not pay-to-win. That is pay-to-win-faster.
They are only the same thing if you lack patients.

I do agree that it's sucky game design to make players grind for days to get a single weapon, but it just isn't pay-to-win; everyone still has access to everything.
Fredulus:
yeah sorry heed but that's not pay2win
pay2win is when you can pay to have an advantage free players can't obtain. free players can get those guns.
heedicalking:
@above 2
That's like saying its not math its complex math. If you're going to classify them separately, call them pay2win faster and pay2win exclusively or something. Your naming is such a trap. "Pay to win" describes exactly what i said.

the devs did this so you would do exactly what you did. Make it sound glorified and fair.
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