"Atheists are..."

[Daedalus]

So, Daedalus, I see you won't let go of your definition of atheism as 'believing or claiming to know there isn't a god'
"Believing something and not believing something are both equally stupid!"
There is no option left if you exclude both believing and not believing. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make anymore.
There is an option, and it's mine. I don't know what you're not understanding here.
I'm a secular humanism - I find atheism and theism both illogical. I cannot deny or confirm the existence of a higher power, which is why I'd rather focus on the human race - furthering us as people, rather than dwelling on something we cannot prove or disprove yet. Everything isn't black and white, Zombie.

What I believe he's referring to are all sorts of supernatural explanations for things that we now have natural explanations for. These things are disprovable
Some things are disprovable. You can't take some examples of religion being dumb and say "Well, that MUST mean there's no higher power."

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[Headcrab Zombie]

What I'm saying is, how on earth could earth exist, and then life, and then what it is today without a god to create it?  Are you telling me that earth was a completely random chunk of space rock that began to orbit the sun at the exact right distance and exact right spin for life, and then formed and plants appeared for no reason and then some goop turned into cells and the cells to other critters and it became the earth destroying human in no time at all...
completely by chance...

where in the Bible does it say earth is not 4.5 billion years old?

Given the immense size of the universe and the number of planets that such a size can support, it is highly improbable that there wouldn't be one that could support life.
4.5 billion years is not 'no time at all'

There is no verse that directly says it; it in inferred based off the time between events or something like that
http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

I honestly don't understand why non-religious and religious people can't coexist, I mean, if we don't bother one another, nothing will happen.
Even though I am an atheist, I am ashamed that you all have to lash out, at each other; religious folk and non-religious folk alike.

Because religious people use their beliefs to influence politics and other things that affect others lives

If you're not denying the existence of a higher being, then you're not an atheist either.

Nope. You're stubborness on this issue is quite funny, actually. No matter how many times people tell you otherwise, you continue on your own little idea of the definition.
Your point and need for a third option is based of the incorrect belief that atheism is the denial of any possible of the existance of a god

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I did not have the intentions of it.

[Daedalus]

I just did disprove Jesus' omniscience...
even so, who's to say God didn't want to forget with the world and mislead us?

and it is in the bible that the earth is the center of the universe, however it's not preached because if it were people would be like "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard" and leave the church.
but where specifically? I've never seen this, and I'd be very interested to. that is very dumb, and you have a fair point about jesus not being omniscient, but you'd have to show me this :u


No one has the right to kill other humans, because it isn't in agreement between humans that it is okay. It is, however, a general consensus that humans have the right to free speech in America, therefor it's granted as a right.
It's not a general agreement between humans if there are humans who don't agree. You can't generalize the entire human race as being part of this agreement, because there are people like murderers who dissent. The difference being that we have the power to stop them.

Nope. You're stubborness on this issue is quite funny, actually. No matter how many times people tell you otherwise, you continue on your own little idea of the definition.
Your point and need for a third option is based of the incorrect assumption that atheism is the denial of any possible of the existance of a god

That is what atheism is. I'm going by dictionary definition.
You're being stubborn by not realizing that there are more options.
The close-mindedness of saying "you MUST pick a side" is really depressing. I am a living, breathing example of someone who is of a third option, and I don't see how you can say I don't exist.

[TheArmyGuy]

That is what atheism is. I'm going by dictionary definition.
You're being stubborn by not realizing that there are more options.
The close-mindedness of saying "you MUST pick a side" is really depressing. I am a living, breathing example of someone who is of a third option, and I don't see how you can say I don't exist.

Notice how he said 'a god' and that definition says 'God'.

[Katadeus]

Notice how he said 'a god' and that definition says 'God'.

That's a bit of an error, but overall it is...

Nope. You're stubborness on this issue is quite funny, actually. No matter how many times people tell you otherwise, you continue on your own little idea of the definition.
Your point and need for a third option is based of the incorrect belief that atheism is the denial of any possible of the existance of a god

Atheism is by definition the denial of religion.
Agnosticism is not being sure.
Areligion is not being involved; not knowing but knowing you cannot know. Humanism falls under this category, I believe.

[morningstar]

"A day is as a thousand years to Jehovah (God)."
6 creative days.  

Please note that the above quote was an expression relating to the 'day of judgement'.  But it makes a point to be used here.  The creative days are not literal days, but metaphors for periods of time that Earth spent being created slowly.  Again, the 'days' used in the bible that most people translated as literal days were actually very drawn out.  Christendom calls them days, but we know this cannot be true.  

Everything on the bible (besides miracles, they require some faith based on the fact in the bible) can be explained with science.  Did you know that in the bible it says the earth is hanging on nothing?  Cultures then either didn't care or believed that it was on turtles or something.  Another is the water cycle.  

Is the Bible not clearly inspired of god and beneficial for teaching and reproving and setting things straight?  

[steve5451]

I thought Atheism was the complete disbelief of any religion. :o

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locking this stuff
i did not want this to turn into a religion war