why is the devil considered evil if he punishes evil-doers?

[Yosher]

i've had thoughts about this

and then i came to the thought "i will die one day and i'll discover then so i have no reason to think about it now"

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[Ladios]

In original jewish lore of which Christianity evolved from, the devil was more seen as a prosecutor and one who held others to their supposed claims and would test people of their faiths and what not. He wasn't seen as evil directly, but more just a general antagonistic force.

The convenience of having a definable "evil" however fits nicely into western societies obsessions with social structure, and an identifiable "other".
Basically blame those forgeters who edited the Bible back under Constantine.

[Alyx Vance]

for what reason did god exterminate the planet?
pray tell

I don't remember, I just remember someone pissed him off so he flooded the planet.

God straight up killed people, they have a chance of going to heaven.
Satan takes and tortures people for eternity.

Honestly I'd rather be killed than tortured.

[devildogelite]

God straight up killed people, they have a chance of going to heaven.
Satan takes and tortures people for eternity.

Honestly I'd rather be killed than tortured.

Satan tortures people god doesn't want in heaven

[blaman]

Interesting thought,

If brain damage can completely alter a persons perception, ability to comprehend, love, form associations, convey emotion, have emotions, think, or interact socially; Then that no doubt means you are your brain, that death is the destruction or dis-function of your brain, that everything you do is a beautifully complex chemical function in your brain. We can conclude that there simply is no room for the soul. If you as a person can be completely changed, and I'm not even talking slight emotional changes. I mean your entire personality and self image can be flipped upside down; you can receive brain damage that makes you question your love, your memories and experiences, your conscious, everything about you and everything that makes you who you perceive yourself as in this instant.

Then what is a soul. If you are beyond any doubt an experimentally proven manifestation of internal brain chemistry, if you are irrefutably completely reliant on your physical being as proven, then that means when the brain dies, you cease to exist. There is no soul that ascends through the clouds to Heaven [or the vast empty darkness that is space], you stop being. Your insignificant self ends on this insignificant planet orbiting an insignificant star of several billion, in one of hundreds of thousands of known Galaxies.

I do not dispute a God, or a Creator, or any such device. I reject human religious institutions and their bullstuff.
You were all raised on poorly written fairy tales.

[Mute]

Interesting thought,

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You were raised up by atheist parents. What if they were wrong?
You don't know that when we die we just cease to exist. How could you prove that? You cant, hence why its an unanswerable question.

[Stocking]

I sometimes wondered if maybe Satan tried to overthrow God for something else besides petty jealousy, because I mean, Lucifer was second only to God and the most beautiful creature he'd ever created, so why would he risk everything he had to fight a fight he knew he probably wouldn't win? And now we only have the Bible to tell us that it was because Lucifer was proud and hateful and the Bible was written by God himself. What if he got Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge because he wanted them to know the world for what it really was, and maybe the terrible, imperfect world we live in today was always around, but they were blind to it until they ate the fruit. Maybe god can't stand beings that are incapable of believing his imperfect world is perfect, and so he only takes the people with him who just flat-out love him unconditionally.

History written by the victors anyone?

God has a list of 10 things that you shall never do! If you do any of these 10 things, God sends you to to be punished, tortured, and suffer by Satan!
But God loves you!

The whole point of the 613 commandments were to show that it was impossible for someone to be as perfect as god is. Christians break the commandments all the time, but Christianity is about god forgiving you of your shortcomings rather than punishing you for them. Although I do agree that it's a little arbitrary to have to acknowledge you can't go to heaven without him to go to heaven, and a little of unfair to people who dunno anything about jeezs.

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The bible was apparently written by "Gods Disciples", not god himself.

[Dusty12]

God wrote the Bible through them. I remember learning about it in Religion class. He filled them with his wisdom and the Holy Spirit, or something like that.

[TeslaCoil]

The bible was apparently written by "Gods Disciples", not god himself.

The idea goes that the Bible is "inspired by God"

[blaman]

You were raised up by atheist parents. What if they were wrong?

Both of my parents were religious, one still is. I went to church every Sunday until I was 13. Although I understand your assumption.

You don't know that when we die we just cease to exist. How could you prove that? You cant, hence why its an unanswerable question.

That was the entire point of that paragraph though, to explain my reasoning behind my claim. Modern physiological and psychological studies provide a solid basis to reject any institutional human-made religions without even stepping over the wake of loopholes and impossibilities and paradox's left by any widely accepted religion.

[Mute]

I've got it!

Lets just worship the mighty Orca!

[blaman]

I've got it!

Lets just worship the mighty Orca!

Right. Instead of adding to a discussion lets just stuff post and prove how painfully stupid half of this forum is.

[Cool Boi]

You can't spell EVIL without lemons, either.

You can't spell valentines day without brown town destiny

[Mute]

Right. Instead of adding to a discussion lets just stuff post and prove how painfully stupid half of this forum is.

Well i could have argued with you. But you stated why you said all that and shot everything i said out of the water.
Which is the stupider choice to you.