Poll

Who do you want as president?

Obama
105 (46.3%)
Romney
47 (20.7%)
Johnson
14 (6.2%)
Stein
9 (4%)
Anderson
2 (0.9%)
Other
16 (7%)
None of the above
21 (9.3%)
I'm an anarchist.
13 (5.7%)

Total Members Voted: 227

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The only thing I don't like about Obama is how he wants to import more stuff from china and got the support of a few environmentalist. In return congress ordered that all water around Fresno California couldn't be used for farmer in order to protect this stupid fish that isn't endangered. forget unregulated imported food, I'm going fishing.

Can someone explain to me how the, "Binders full of women" thing that romney said is disrespectful?
I missed that part of the debate.


Statistically, Obama made 5 million jobs.  I'll give you that.

But also statistically 5 million jobs were lost......

Jobs were made in China.

no china takes are job!


Hindrances promoted by the american people alone doesn't necessarily contribute to the president's responsibility to create job growth.  Which is exactly what he's done.

1. He spelled out his 5-point plan several times (energy independence, opening trade, killing the deficit, education,  and promoting small business)
2. He answered better than Obama (e.g. Libya, his pension, and the fast and furious scandal)
1. His 5 point plan is similar to saying "Well, I'll fix the economy!" without providing any indepth specifics.
2. He answered better?  Really?  You mean, when he was called out for providing blatantly incorrect information by the moderator about Libya, he was answering it better?  You mean, when he made the stuffty attempt to try and kiss the deceased asses instead of referencing the actual issue, he answered better?  Romney contradicted far too many of his initial policies in this debate, and that was a blatant mistake.  The fact that you avoid the constant change he promotes/the major republicans running shows me that you are, in fact, republican, even though you state otherwise.  No one would've supported Ryan in the vice presidential debate unless they were -- it was obvious that he lost that debate, and it was obvious that Obama won this one.

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Overall Obama was very rude and seemed really angsty/ angry last night
Who was the one who kept interrupting the moderator?  Obama did once, and he immediately stopped.  Romney was told that he'd be able to mention what he so desperately had to get out during his next question, but instead he kept going, and going, SEVERAL times.  Romney was the rude individual last night.  For forget's sake, did you even watch the debate?

1. He spelled out his 5-point plan several times (energy independence
You mean the energy plan that allows for drilling in national parks, mentions "oil" 154 times and "climate change" 0 times?


Who was the one who kept interrupting the moderator?  Obama did once, and he immediately stopped.  Romney was told that he'd be able to mention what he so desperately had to get out during his next question, but instead he kept going, and going, SEVERAL times.  Romney was the rude individual last night.

yeah the moderator only interrupted him 28 times

yeah the moderator only interrupted him 28 times
The moderator interrupted him when he kept interrupting her, trying to get him to stop.  Are you loving handicapped?  I don't know of anyone who thought the moderator was bad aside from you.  Hell, even mainstream republicans thought this moderator was fine.  The last moderator was stuff.

Hindrances promoted by the american people alone doesn't necessarily contribute to the president's responsibility to create job growth.  Which is exactly what he's done.
1. His 5 point plan is similar to saying "Well, I'll fix the economy!" without providing any indepth specifics.
2. He answered better?  Really?  You mean, when he was called out for providing blatantly incorrect information by the moderator about Libya, he was answering it better?  You mean, when he made the stuffty attempt to try and kiss the deceased asses instead of referencing the actual issue, he answered better?  Romney contradicted far too many of his initial policies in this debate, and that was a blatant mistake.  The fact that you avoid the constant change he promotes/the major republicans running shows me that you are, in fact, republican, even though you state otherwise.  No one would've supported Ryan in the vice presidential debate unless they were -- it was obvious that he lost that debate, and it was obvious that Obama won this one.
Who was the one who kept interrupting the moderator?  Obama did once, and he immediately stopped.  Romney was told that he'd be able to mention what he so desperately had to get out during his next question, but instead he kept going, and going, SEVERAL times.  Romney was the rude individual last night.  For forget's sake, did you even watch the debate?
Okay what he said about libya was partially true.  Obama was talking about 9/11 and then the attack saying "no terrorist attacks will weaken us" or w/e and that's not even saying that it WAS a terrorist attack.  And then the dumb Youtube thing was also given as a theory.

Also if you look at the number of times Obama interrupted Romney as compared to vice versa it was appalling. He would try to "correct" Romney, or ask about the time, in the middle of a sentence.

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MR. ROMNEY: — and gas on federal lands and in federal waters. And coal — coal production is not up, coal jobs are not up. I was just at a coal facility where some 1,200 people lost their jobs. The right course for America is to have a true all-of-the-above policy. I don't think anyone really believes that you're a person who's going to be pushing for oil and gas and coal.

You'll get your chance in a moment. I'm still speaking.

(Chuckles.)

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, Governor, if — if you're asking me a question, I'm going to answer it.

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MR. ROMNEY: Great. Thank you. And I appreciate that question. I — I just want to make sure that — I think I was supposed to get that last answer, but I want to point out that I don't believe —

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I don't think so, Candy.

MR. ROMNEY: I don't believe —

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, I want to make sure our timekeepers are working here.

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MR. ROMNEY: ...Let me mention something else the president said.

It was a moment ago, and I didn't get a chance to — when he was describing Chinese investments and so forth. Let me —

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Candy, hold on a second. The — (inaudible) — there's some points we got to —

MR. ROMNEY: I — I — you know, I'm still — Mr. President, I'm still speaking.

MS. CROWLEY: I'm sorry.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Governor Romney, I — I'm — I'm — I'm — (inaudible) — make sure — (inaudible) —

MR. ROMNEY: Mr. President, why don't you let me finish? I'm going to — I'm going to continue. I'm going to continue. The president made a —

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MR. ROMNEY: It took them a long time to say this was a terrorist act by a terrorist group and — and to suggest — am I incorrect in that regard? On Sunday the — your — your secretary or —

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Candy —

MR. ROMNEY: Excuse me. The ambassador to the United Nations went on the Sunday television shows and — and spoke about how this was a spontaneous reaction.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Candy, I'm — I'm happy to —

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MR. ROMNEY: ...Number two, we have to make America the most attractive place for entrepreneurs, for people who want to expand a business. That's what brings jobs in. The president's characterization of my tax plan —

PRESIDENT OBAMA: How much time (you ?) got, Candy?

I could find more but you are welcome.

The moderator interrupted him when he kept interrupting her, trying to get him to stop.  Are you loving handicapped?  I don't know of anyone who thought the moderator was bad aside from you.  Hell, even mainstream republicans thought this moderator was fine.  The last moderator was stuff.
This moderator sucked just like the last one..

Okay what he said about libya was partially true.  Obama was talking about 9/11 and then the attack saying "no terrorist attacks will weaken us" or w/e and that's not even saying that it WAS a terrorist attack.
On 9/12 Obama said: "Acts of Terror"