What's wrong with the world and America

[Cucumber!]

I'm just gonna point out how, while this argument was pretty damn convincing, or at least it was to me...there were a couple flaws.

You say don't judge many by the actions of few, okay I get that. Then you say fire all of congress. I bet some of them have done something good for the country. You're just judging many by the actions of a few.

But overall this is a good wake up call. Good job.

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[YourBuddyBill]

Congressmen are there for a reason.
Yes, some of them may do bad things, some of them have beliefs opposing yours, but they do have a purpose.
You obviously dont understand how government works.

Yes, they do have a purpose, I just see too much corruption amongst them. The severe polarization ruins everything. You do have a point, and I must admit that I'm not well informed enough about the details to make so absolute a statement.

I should add a section about media bias.

wtf is with the lord tony part and no one even thought he was a brony

Surprisingly, some people did.

This image gave me cancer.

Please explain how this occurs.

what does a few blocklanders have to do with the problems with society?

Given that all blocklanders are a part of society in some way shape or form...

My eyes completely went over that image.
That image gave me testicular cancer and swelling.

I'm not one to exactly like the thought of 2 dudes being married but hell, if they want to let them. As long as they follow all of the rules to behaving in public and all with their partner than I'm fine with it. If I don't want to see them holding hands then I can just turn my head.

Exactly. I am not gay, but I still believe in equal rights for them.

did nobody notice that image was 100% sarcasm

I don't know, I think some of them responded with sarcasm, but I have a hard time telling.

love makes everything harder

...I don't even know how to respond to that.

burn the entire congress

You know what I meant, damnit.

I'm just gonna point out how, while this argument was pretty damn convincing, or at least it was to me...there were a couple flaws.

You say don't judge many by the actions of few, okay I get that. Then you say fire all of congress. I bet some of them have done something good for the country. You're just judging many by the actions of a few.

But overall this is a good wake up call. Good job.

Yeah, as I said above, that part needs tweaking. Thanks.

[Mysteroo]

3. Organized Religion:
Wanna know something? Christmas isn't even about the birth of Jesus. If you look at the descriptions in the Bible, it evidences an Autumn time of the year, as opposed to winter. So why December 25? It's because when the church was going around "absorbing" other groups, they decided that the Winter Solstice Festival (I'm pretty sure it's the Feast of Stephen) needed to be removed from people's minds, and so they "moved" Christmas to smack on top of it, so it would "replace" the Winter Solstice festival. Therefore, Religion = Politics.

So because Christmas was placed at the wrong time of the year, (which, historians have found that the conception of Jesus could at least be right about 12/25) made to replace a non-Christian holiday, automatically it's not about Jesus? Who cares what it's replacing, that doesn't affect what it is about. I admit back then that Religion was much more political, the Catholic church had a lot of power in those days. Saying because it used to be more political, religion = politics, is just wrong.

My friend goes to a bad Catholic school. She was repeatedly physically assaulted by other students. Administration didn't do a damn thing. Not to mention she's got a "Morals" class, and the teacher is an starfish. So much for morals.

Yeah some religious people are hypocritical, there are hypocrites in every belief system. Even those with a lack of a belief system can be very hypocritical.

2. The abortion debate:
People seem to believe that human life is so damn sacred that even a collection of cells which are genetically human are oh-so-important. "Theyre not as smart as us but they still need protection!" In response to that, I can only point out that humans ourselves are but a collection of cells, and therefore any shed hair, feces, and skin that comes off amounts to murder under that logic. I know there's a good comeback to that, but I should also point out that chimps are self aware and more than capable of using tools, but the hyper-conservative-religious-types don't seem to care about them. After looking over how many religious nuts are also human-supremecy nuts (indeed, many major religions depict humans as "special" and "more important than anything else", "humans are the only things with souls", etc.), I can only conclude:

You have to remember that a lot of those people are very religious, like me. There are verses that say things along the lines of "God formed you in the womb," abortion in that case would be like directly interfering with God's work. From a religious stand point, people's lives are sacred, and we're viewed as very different from any ordinary animal or chimp. whether or not they're as smart as one who's been born, it's still seen as human. Again, from a religious viewpoint, humans are way more than just a collection of cells. Yes I'll admit, most religious are human-supremest. But honestly, I don't see other animals inventing, making music, doing in depth thinking, or even talking. Last time I checked the biggest care most animals have is survival. Or if they're pets who are well taken care of, it's entertaining themselves or something like that. I just can't view other animals as being near equal to people

I don't want to debate, it never really helps anything. But these are my thoughts.

[Axolotl2]

My school is the prime example of ignorance. Most of the people don't listen, and if they do listen, they forget what they have learned.

I'm probably going to be 1 out of 5-10 people in my school to graduate with a Specialized Diploma in Engineering, because my GPA is already at 4.0 (I can hopefully shoot for a 4.0-4.5 to go into caltech?)

[YourBuddyBill]

So because Christmas was placed at the wrong time of the year, (which, historians have found that the conception of Jesus could at least be right about 12/25) made to replace a non-Christian holiday, automatically it's not about Jesus? Who cares what it's replacing, that doesn't affect what it is about. I admit back then that Religion was much more political, the Catholic church had a lot of power in those days. Saying because it used to be more political, religion = politics, is just wrong.

It still seems political to me, I was attempting to give an example. For another example, when Obama added Islam to the list of holiday religions celebrated to the white house, a few people started a hate campaign claiming Obama was muslim and hated America. And when you see advertisements nowadays, I think Christmas has also become too commercial, with Santa Claus a figure of the whole "gimme gimme gimme" spirit from early on.

Yeah some religious people are hypocritical, there are hypocrites in every belief system. Even those with a lack of a belief system can be very hypocritical.  

Indeed, the number of hypocrites is, pardon the expression, "TOO DAMN HIGH!"

You have to remember that a lot of those people are very religious, like me. There are verses that say things along the lines of "God formed you in the womb," abortion in that case would be like directly interfering with God's work. From a religious stand point, people's lives are sacred, and we're viewed as very different from any ordinary animal or chimp. whether or not they're as smart as one who's been born, it's still seen as human. Again, from a religious viewpoint, humans are way more than just a collection of cells. Yes I'll admit, most religious are human-supremest. But honestly, I don't see other animals inventing, making music, doing in depth thinking, or even talking. Last time I checked the biggest care most animals have is survival. Or if they're pets who are well taken care of, it's entertaining themselves or something like that. I just can't view other animals as being near equal to people

I don't want to debate, it never really helps anything. But these are my thoughts.

Of course, part of this is because these religions were invented by humans for humans. I could bring up that one guy's "legitimate rape" quote with a sarcastic response about eliminating life jackets, but I doubt that would do much good. You bring up good points, however, there's also the consideration: Will that child lead a good life if it is unwanted? Especially in rape cases, it's a borderline mercy-kill. The only difference between it and a brain dead person hooked up to fluids and machines to live, is that the fetus has more potential.
And who is to say that given time those other animals won't begin? They all have some form of language, we just cannot easily comprehend it. Did you know that elephants mourn their dead?

My school is the prime example of ignorance. Most of the people don't listen, and if they do listen, they forget what they have learned.

I'm probably going to be 1 out of 5-10 people in my school to graduate with a Specialized Diploma in Engineering, because my GPA is already at 4.0 (I can hopefully shoot for a 4.0-4.5 to go into caltech?)

That's one end of the spectrum. Meanwhile at my school, everyone is an overachiever. People with 4.0 GPAs are not even in the top 20 because everyone takes so many AP courses... and yet, they're still ignorant. It's sad, seeing them go from so intelligent and cultured to so ignorant and petty in five seconds.

[MrMcCakey]

number 7 in the gay marriage opposing thing is bullstuff, but the rest of the image did manage to change some of my views on gay marriage.

[YourBuddyBill]

number 7 in the gay marriage opposing thing is bullstuff, but the rest of the image did manage to change some of my views on gay marriage.

I hope you say this because the entire image is sarcastic and it points out flaws in the anti-gay-marriage argument.

Number seven does kinda push it, but yeah.

[Mega-Bear]

number 7 in the gay marriage opposing thing is bullstuff, but the rest of the image did manage to change some of my views on gay marriage.

How so?

[allyorbase]

How so?

Obviously straight parents can only raise straight kids.

[Slate521]

What's wrong with the world, mama
People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
I think the whole world addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma

Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the kool kids klub

But if you only have love for your own race
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah

Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate
Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love, the love, the love

It just ain't the same, always unchanged
New days are strange, is the world insane
If love and peace are so strong
Why are there pieces of love that don't belong

Nations droppin' bombs
Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones
With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young
So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone

So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong
In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin' in
Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother
A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover

The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug
If you never know truth then you never know love
Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the truth, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the love, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)?
Where is the love (The love)?
Where is the love, the love, the love?

I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction

Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema

Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading us away from unity

That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found
Now ask yourself

Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?

Father, Father, Father, help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love?

Sing with me y'all:
One world, one world (We only got)
One world, one world (That's all we got)
One world, one world
And something's wrong with it (Yeah)
Something's wrong with it (Yeah)
Something's wrong with the wo-wo-world, yeah
We only got
(One world, one world)
That's all we got
(One world, one world)

[MrMcCakey]

-snip-

I heard that song once

only thing I actually liked from that band :i

[Big Brother]

Can you name a congressperson who's gotten something done for the good of the country lately?

Let me hit you up with an brown townogy.

McDonalds staff.

They're morons. They forget parts of my order, they have ratchet accents and they generally piss me off sometimes. They keep asking me to repeat myself and the milkshake machine is always loving broken.

But we need them because they do their job. Regardless of how well they do it, we need to put up with those motherforgeters because nobody else is going to be taking up their position any time soon.

[YourBuddyBill]

Let me hit you up with an brown townogy.

McDonalds staff.

They're morons. They forget parts of my order, they have ratchet accents and they generally piss me off sometimes. They keep asking me to repeat myself and the milkshake machine is always loving broken.

But we need them because they do their job. Regardless of how well they do it, we need to put up with those motherforgeters because nobody else is going to be taking up their position any time soon.

Hmmm, impressive point. However, I would think that more people would be happy to join the government if it were more effective.
Still, I see what you mean. Indeed there are times when we must choose between bad and worse. But here's another idea:

You could try a different fast-food place.

Ok, yeah, that was a bad counterpoint. I mess with peoples' brown townogies.

[Mysteroo]

It still seems political to me, I was attempting to give an example. For another example, when Obama added Islam to the list of holiday religions celebrated to the white house, a few people started a hate campaign claiming Obama was muslim and hated America. And when you see advertisements nowadays, I think Christmas has also become too commercial, with Santa Claus a figure of the whole "gimme gimme gimme" spirit from early on.

Yeah, I'd have to agree on the Christmas thing. It's become extremely commercial, but most Christians I know aren't happy about that either. Santa Claus has nothing to do with Jesus or religion, it's purely commercial. A lot of Christmas has completely strayed away from being religious at all. It's sort of like a secular American holiday now. But again, some people are hypocritical and some people drag religion into politics. But that doesn't mean religion is purely (or at all) political.

Of course, part of this is because these religions were invented by humans for humans. I could bring up that one guy's "legitimate rape" quote with a sarcastic response about eliminating life jackets, but I doubt that would do much good. You bring up good points, however, there's also the consideration: Will that child lead a good life if it is unwanted? Especially in rape cases, it's a borderline mercy-kill. The only difference between it and a brain dead person hooked up to fluids and machines to live, is that the fetus has more potential.
And who is to say that given time those other animals won't begin? They all have some form of language, we just cannot easily comprehend it. Did you know that elephants mourn their dead?

Well I don't think that I could consider it unwanted. The number of annual adoptions is similar to that of abortions, they're definitely not unwanted. And whether or not you have parents, you can still live a great life. I've met several orphans and adopted children in my life and they seemed perfectly fine. Again I look at things from a very religious viewpoint, and most people who do that don't believe in things like evolution. So we wouldn't think that other animals ever would begin. As for the language, they all have ways of signalling each other vague things, like maybe "I'm hungry," "I hurt," "I do (or don't) like you," that sort of thing. Beyond that they don't seem to say much if anything. I wouldn't be surprised at the elephant thing, animals can bond and grow to really like one another. But again I just can't see them as nearly equal to people.

[YourBuddyBill]

Yeah, I'd have to agree on the Christmas thing. It's become extremely commercial, but most Christians I know aren't happy about that either. Santa Claus has nothing to do with Jesus or religion, it's purely commercial. A lot of Christmas has completely strayed away from being religious at all. It's sort of like a secular American holiday now. But again, some people are hypocritical and some people drag religion into politics. But that doesn't mean religion is purely (or at all) political.

True, true. A lot of the point of America was to keep Religion and Politics separate, and I feel that goal was never really COMPLETELY accomplished.

Well I don't think that I could consider it unwanted. The number of annual adoptions is similar to that of abortions, they're definitely not unwanted. And whether or not you have parents, you can still live a great life. I've met several orphans and adopted children in my life and they seemed perfectly fine. Again I look at things from a very religious viewpoint, and most people who do that don't believe in things like evolution. So we wouldn't think that other animals ever would begin. As for the language, they all have ways of signalling each other vague things, like maybe "I'm hungry," "I hurt," "I do (or don't) like you," that sort of thing. Beyond that they don't seem to say much if anything. I wouldn't be surprised at the elephant thing, animals can bond and grow to really like one another. But again I just can't see them as nearly equal to people.

Despite this, the world is too full of people. Because the number of adoptions equals the number of abortions, so what? That means if we outlaw abortion we'll need to double the number of adoptions to pick up the slack. I could mention abusive adoptive parents, but that would be wrong, most adoptive parents really do love and care, but they get no media time, and instead we're looking at that lady who fed her adopted son hot sauce because she wanted to get on a "bad moms" tv show and get filthy rich. I suppose I somewhat dodge the point here, so my suggestion to people is this: Adopt, people. You want a child, adopt. There are plenty who need a good home already, we don't need to add more. (This is the same reason why I'm against those high-end puppy farms of "designer purebreeds" or whatever the heck they call em now)
As for the animals, part of the other thing is that with the power comes the responsibility to care for those that do not have the power.

I enjoy your style; you're well thought-out and you can make a decent and well-reasoned point. If only there were more people like you and less of the people who just tell me "U r goin 2 hell 4 this".