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| M:
This deserves a topic mostly on account of if I don't give it its own topic other ones will eventually be filled with me telling people to loving off themselves so they can't breed. Why the forget do people keep telling modders not to give admins power? In the discussion of every single large-scale server modification - whether it's CityRPGs, DRPG, trench wars, or anything else - you will see users saying "Don't give admins the ability to do X thing because they will abuse it". This is nothing to do with the modder. Modders, when developing mods like this, where admins will have some system other than building or being an starfish to manage, should give those admins the tools to do so. Granting money in CityRPG and items in DRPG, instant digging in trench wars - these are important tools to help deal with the everyday bullstuff you bunch of loving handicaps inflict on each other whenever you play these things. If you're running a server, someone, somewhere is going to find some way to forget with the systems in it and ruin someone elses time on the server. It is an admin's responsibility by wont of them being a loving admin to deal with this stuff and try to ensure that the server runs smoothly, and with game servers this includes making sure that people who abuse the system are removed. Sure, that's reactive, not proactive measures. If the person doesn't have a prior reputation, you will only know they're going to forget with others once they do it. The administrator can then remove them from the server - but systematically they have probably caused damage. If the player is removed, it's only fair to roll back the damage they inflicted. People constantly scream to not give admins the tools to do this, based on the fact that bad admins will abuse it. And note the choice of words there - the fact. They will abuse it. People are so concerned with bad administrators that they refuse to acknowledge there is also good administrators. Admins who will, if the tools are made available to them, use them to help others when stuff goes foul. And it will go foul, as for every bad administrator there's also a handful or more of bad players who are often every bit as capable as the administrator of ruining your stuff. You cannot fault a modder for people abusing administrative tools, as that is the fault of the administrators, not the modder. Blaming the creator of a mod for servers using it sucking is blaming entirely the wrong party - because if a server is run by capable people who actually know what they're doing and aren't loving around, people will enjoy it even if it's running something as ungodly loving terrible as Jorgur's RPG. And if a bad admin wants to forget with you, they'll always be able to kick or ban you. There's no loving point in removing their other tools. Note that this entire rant is also cross-applicable to Badspot's blocking of access to script functions. There are bad modders who will only break things - intentionally or not. There are troll modders who will deliberately abuse script to forget with others. And there's still modders who just want to make mods, and they're getting punished for the stuff others do. |
| Sleven:
Frankly, I have absolutely no idea how the term badmin even came to existence. I do not understand how the host is able to give admin to the wrong people. It seriously is not that hard to sift through people. Dear lord, people are complete idiots. Concerning the levels of "admin-power". I can't cope with people who rather distribute loads of "moderator" posts instead of just giving the people a bloody administrator-grade. To give away power to a fellow blockhead you seriously should be able to actually trust that guy, so just give him his Admin or don't give him anything. What's the point of all these middle-grades. Blockland is seriously paranoid. |
| Yosher:
This thread was needed. |
| Crøwn:
I agree. |
| Treynolds416:
Title needs to convey more of your apparent rage |
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