[MEGATHREAD] Personal Computer - Updated builds thanks to Logical Increments

[Deve]

sounds nice

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[Shitty Puns]

...although youre better off getting an i3 if youre gaming

[Treynolds416]

...although youre better off getting an i3 if youre gaming

Not really. The pentium matches an i3-4330 in most cases for $50 less, even when 4 threads are scheduled. Combine that with a cheap h87 board (as pentium was saying on the other page) and cheap air cooler and you have an unbeatable value proposition, even against amd offerings like the 750k

[Shitty Puns]

Not really. The pentium outperforms in most cases, even when 4 threads are scheduled. Combine that with a cheap h87 board (as pentium was sayingon theother page) and cheap air cooler and you have an unbeatable value proposition, even against amd offerings

I wouldnt exactly count on a cheap H87 to keep a high, stable overclock. most reviewers have a high-end Z87 motherboard at hand, of course they can hit crazy 4.6Ghz clocks.

[Treynolds416]

They're not of poorer quality, they just have a different chipset. z87 isn't any worse than z97 at overclocking either, and you can find some of those boards for under $80 easily. The pentium still holds a better value than the i3, especially if you consider the ability to overclock when you upgrade your processor and not have to change motherboards in the future

[Shitty Puns]

nothing to do with quality, everything to do with VRM phases. I dont want 2 stuffty modules which cannot handle a high voltage needed for an overclock. Id rather have an 8-phase digital VRM

[Treynolds416]

nothing to do with quality, everything to do with VRM phases. I dont want 2 stuffty modules which cannot handle a high voltage needed for an overclock. Id rather have an 8-phase digital VRM

You don't need high voltage, 1.3 should be all that's required for 4.4-4.5ghz
Stability isn't determined by the motherboard, it's determined by the chip

[Pentium]

You only need to worry about VRMs is if you have a high TDP CPU. Even at 4.6 GHz, the Pentium uses less power than a stock i5, which is a piece of cake even for H81 boards. We can't be too certain until someone tries it, though, but knowing the enthusiast community that won't be too long.
EDIT: This is an image that's posted on almost every news article about the G3258:

If those clocks are stable, then 4.6 Ghz on a cheap board should be an easy task.

[#Ravencroft]

Asus or Lenovo?

[Bisjac]

-made topic to avoid page loss-

[Foxscotch]

can someone tell me what is the best computer for gaming that I can build/buy for $400, including a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and Windows

[Shitty Puns]

can someone tell me what is the best computer for gaming that I can build/buy for $400, including a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and Windows

windows - $85
monitor - $100
mouse+keyboard -  $15

only about 200 left for pc. a gaming computer is pretty much impossible for the price. unless you buy some used parts off of ebay, salvage old computers. you could pick up a hard drive, a case, disk drive. in the best case scenario you are looking at a $60 pentium + $50 H81 mobo + $40 RAM + $20 PSU after mail in rebates. left with at whopping $30. not enough for a GPU, youre going to have to stick to integrated HD for a while. youll only be able to play only older games, until you save up for a GPU.

if you are a student, then you could probably get windows 8 for free. in that case, pick up a GTX 750 or something and youll have a somewhat adequate gaming PC

[Foxscotch]

so in other words, I should buy an xbox one instead

[Blockzillahead]

yes

[Clear Glass]

so in other words, I should buy an xbox one PS4 instead

fix'd.