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[MEGATHREAD] Personal Computer - Updated builds thanks to Logical Increments
Wedge:
--- Quote from: Legodude77 on April 08, 2013, 04:41:02 PM ---Hey guys I heard you all liked lots of RAM and CPUs so...
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Just a heads up for anyone seriously considering using multiple physical processors: You will need to be using either Windows 7 Professional, or Ultimate, or Windows 8 Professional. All of the Windows 7 Home editions and regular Windows 8 do not support more than one physical processor. Windows desktop operating systems don't support more than two physical sockets period, but I haven't seen many boards with more than two sockets (and certainly none on newegg). If you want more than two physical processors you'll need to run Server 2012/2008/etc. There is technically a limit on the number of cores logical processors* Windows can use as well (I think it's 256), but you will never run into this issue on a 2 socket board running Windows straight on it. The only time I think you might run into it is if you've got a huge server running VMWare and you tried to allocate 257 cores to a Windows VM.
* Small error here, because both physical cores, physical processors, and virtual cores from hyper-threading are all considered logical processors.
There's also memory limits. Windows 8 is limited to 128GB, Professional is limited to 512GB. Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate are both limited to 192GB. With 16 8GB sticks you can max out Windows 8's (not professional) RAM limit.
For both Windows 7 and 8, enterprise is almost identical to professional, but enterprise is pretty much only available in volume licensing.
The limits on RAM and processors are mostly artificial to encourage you to purchase the server operating systems. It's a little weird but it makes sense when you think about it, putting Windows on a machine with 8 processors and 1TB of ram is not a good idea. It's not a desktop, it's a server, and people cutting corners on cost by buying Windows Vista/7/8 for servers are going to be disappointed with the quality and performance, especially when you compare it to linux server OS which you can just run on there for free.
Marcem:
--- Quote from: Legodude77 on April 08, 2013, 04:41:02 PM ---Hey guys I heard you all liked lots of RAM and CPUs so...
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why would a server motherboard even need 7.1 audio?
Nasoa:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/396983/Tactical_TC-128_ATX_Mid_Tower_Computer_Case
Is this some sort of massive bargain, I feel like I'm missing something for it to have a $30 rebate making it $5.
NalNalas:
How many hz is the crossover monitor
Wedge:
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How many hz is the crossover monitor
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This is an interesting question because there are a lot of people on the Internet who think they know what they're talking about but they're just making things up. So I'll go ahead and just clear this up once and for all. I'm pulling this straight out of Scot Mueller's Upgrading and Repairing PCs. It's a book a highly recommend to anyone even remotely interested in building computers. There's some people here who might think "Oh, I've been doing this for years, I know everything about computers," but you don't, and this book will show you that when you start reading it. I know this because I was one of those people, I've been working on PCs since the mid 2000s and do it professionally, and I still learned a lot from the book. You can probably find some edition of it in a library, although it may not talk about LED/LCD screens (there are over 20 editions of it!).
LCD and LED screens do not have a scanning frequency (or a refresh rate, or whatever you call it). The frequency refers to the number of times an electron beam rescans an entire image on a cathode ray tube. This actually involves moving a beam of electrons around and pointing it every single individual pixel at some point or another. LCD and LED screens are solid state (transistor based) technology that refresh every single pixel all at once. This occurs either continuously (basically instantly as the changes are made with no frequency), or at a very, very high frequency (much faster than how fast your graphics card can actually send data to the monitor).
Video cards just pretend it's around 60 Hz and work at that. 60 Hz would be really slow for a CRT and would cause flickering and eyestrain, but an LCD or LED screen doesn't care and looks fine. You will get no benefit from running it at a higher frequency, in fact, you'll actually just waste energy running your graphics card at a higher frequency with no image improvement.
If you look online you'll see people telling you that running an LCD/LED screen at 75 Hz will make it look better and flicker less. They have no idea what they're talking about and you should just ignore them. Or better yet, you can tell them they're wrong and then refer them to Scot Mueller's Upgrading and Repairing PCs 21st Edition, page 659.
You can get weird blurring/ghosting/flicker effects on an LED/LCD monitor, but this is not a refresh issue. Make sure you're running it at the native resolution and also check to make sure you are using a DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort connection and not a VGA cable. If you have to use VGA and the monitor is looking weird, try and use a shorter or heavie gauge VGA cable. You can also try and put a ferrite core on it.
So to wrap it up and answer your question, I'm not sure what a crossover monitor is but I bet it's an LCD or LED monitor, so the answer is it's no hz because that's something that isn't really applicable to it.
EDIT: I see the Crossover 27Q is a monitor mentioned in the thread title. I don't know if it's meant to be a joke or serious. It's not a bad monitor especially for the price, but it's also almost $500 dollars, which is definitely not a budget monitor. It's also DVI only. Last time I bought a monitor it was [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052]this one[/url] for $179. I think that'd be a better price for a monitor although there are probably nicer and cheaper monitors than that one. The sound quality on it was also not very good (laptop speakers were better!), but I have a pair of headphones and speakers I use with it anyway.
EDIT: See this post