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Altiris:
--- Quote from: Tokthree on January 17, 2013, 10:54:12 PM ---Why advise someone to purchase a single 8GB stick of RAM when you know that 2x4GB would give far greater performance overall? Why advocate upgrading beyond 8GB when it's extremely unlikely that the person you are advising would be doing anything more than playing some games? You're basically advocating and spreading the absolutely idiotic notion that anyone who just plays games will need any more than 8GB of RAM on his rig even a couple of years from now.
The reason that you are stupid, don't know what you're talking about and are giving bad advice is that you're advising this user to waste his money on something he either does not need at all or on something that gives far poorer performance than an equal alternative and also potentially driving him to advise other people to do the things you advised him to do which is perpetuating nonsense
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The performance is a mere 5%, getting two 4GB or 1 8GB from GSkill is the same price, some kits are even $2 more. If you get the two 4gb and you ever plan on upgrading in the future (notice how I say in the future meaning years from now) you will end up having to throw out both sticks from the PC, that is to reach full 16gb. Where as the 8gb you wouldn't d throwing away anything. That's all I am trying to say, for it being the same price I would rather just get the 1 8gb because you wouldn't throw anything out (not in the trash obvs but then u need to put it somewhere safe) ram won't magically speed up the computer, and the performance increase from dual channel is ~5% so it's really not that big of a gain.
I never told him he had to get more than 8GB of ram, this is the second time I am telling I gave examples of people who would need more than 8gb of ram and I quote myself "if someone who does things like renders videos or uses maya, adobe premiere pro off the bat uses 3gb when exporting...". I don't know where you think I told him to get more than 8gb.
I'm done replying, @OP if you think you would ever upgrade you ram a couple years down the road go with the 1 stick 8gb, it works fine, I can host and play a minecrsft server on the PC with 4 people on it and only 1gb of ram being dedicated to the server. The other thing is that if you plan on upgrading and get the 2x4gb kit you will end up removing at least one 4gb and it will just be lying around, wasted money.
lcyGamma:
--- Quote from: Altiris on January 17, 2013, 11:37:41 PM ---If you get the two 4gb and you ever plan on upgrading in the future (notice how I say in the future meaning years from now) you will end up having to throw out both sticks from the PC, that is to reach full 16gb.
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You shouldn't be mixing RAM up anyway, by the time you go to buy a new stick who knows what technologies will be behind them. Might have different clock speeds or something.
--- Quote from: Altiris on January 17, 2013, 11:37:41 PM ---I'm done replying, @OP
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Oh don't be like that, obviously you and Tok just come from two different sides of the spectrum when it comes to your approach with computer assembly. Don't take it to heart.
Altiris:
--- Quote from: lcyGamma on January 18, 2013, 12:16:01 AM ---You shouldn't be mixing RAM up anyway, by the time you go to buy a new stick who knows what technologies will be behind them. Might have different clock speeds or something.
Oh don't be like that, obviously you and Tok just come from two different sides of the spectrum when it comes to your approach with computer assembly. Don't take it to heart.
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I know I said I wouldn't reply but I came back to see if OP replied anything and I see your post.
Usually, well when I bought my PC I wrote the model number and name of the memory so that years from now I can searh the model number and find t. However if technology does start changing and I hear them discontinuing DDR3 ram then I will either buy more while its still out of just not buy any at all. Just remember the model number for the ram and ull be good to go.
Blockzillahead:
--- Quote from: Altiris on January 18, 2013, 06:27:57 AM ---I know I said I wouldn't reply but I came back to see if OP replied anything and I see your post.
Usually, well when I bought my PC I wrote the model number and name of the memory so that years from now I can searh the model number and find t. However if technology does start changing and I hear them discontinuing DDR3 ram then I will either buy more while its still out of just not buy any at all. Just remember the model number for the ram and ull be good to go.
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Tok still has a point. Mixing 2 memory sticks is more efficient than just 1 memory stick. Mainly because two of them are working on tasks rather than 1 stick working on everything.
Altiris:
--- Quote from: Blockzillahead on January 18, 2013, 10:26:23 AM ---Tok still has a point. Mixing 2 memory sticks is more efficient than just 1 memory stick. Mainly because two of them are working on tasks rather than 1 stick working on everything.
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I understand this but it's not that big of a performance difference, it's around 5% and its not like it will make your PC 5% faster. If you go this way you will end up wasting money down the road. THIS IS AN Example, both 8gb (2x4gb) and 8gb(1x8gb) are the same price (the rams are actually the same price irl) from Gskill. Your motherboard only has two slots and supports 16gb of total memory. You decide to get the 2x4gb, so now you have both slots filled up and have 8gb max. A couple years pass, we will say two years or so and you decide for some reason you want 12gb or 16gb (I don't give a stuff if you say nobody needs that much, maybe someone just wants to have that much, who are you to decide?). In order to get 12gb of ram you would need to remove one stick, and buy 1 8gb stick. You now spent money on one stick and have an extra stick just lying around. Lets say you wanted 16gb now, you are going to have to end up removing the 4gb stick that you've had since the first time you built the PC.
You've now bought another 8gb stick and now have 16gb total, you have reached your goal but now you have 2 4gb sticks just lying around and you've spent $120 total on all of the ram you've purchased (this is including the 2x4gb which currently are $40 and then plus another $40 for the 1stick you got and then plus another $40 for the last stick you got that gave you 16gb total ram). If you had chose to get 8gb in the first place your total amount of money spent on ram would only be only $80. Thats $40 saved right there, who's stupid now?
DO YOU SEE MY POINT YET?