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TDM Rant 2 - Return of the Buttclench

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DestroyerOfBlocks:


--- Quote from: Doomonkey on January 28, 2013, 10:05:08 PM ---Ability to play and have fun difference between good players and alright players before shops:
people who just joined the server=people who have been in the server for a while

After shops:
people who just joined the server---------------------------------------------------------------------------------people who have been in the server for a while

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patton360:

100% agree

Zay:

People get the wrong ideas about shops. Shops aren't meant to buy weapons themselves, they're made to buy, grenades, powerups, medkits, stuff like that. It's wrong when people put the weapons in the shop, because the server basically needs you to be good with a stuff weapon to earn better ones. In a good TDM, all weapons should be available, and grenades and health packs and powerups should be at a cheap price in the shop.

Knife TDMs are crap. Absolutely no effort and thought put into them. Who the forget invented that stuff anyway. I've seen how they build the platforms, it's literally spam. They take an 8x8 plate, cover it completely on the top with 1x1 print bricks. Then they dup it onto a zone brick in midair, and delete the botom 8x8 plate, and replace it with ceiling 1x1 prints. So basically, each platform has 64 on top and 64 on bottom, add it up and notice that EACH 8x8 platform is 128 bricks. Boom. Spam in your loving face, you fellow Knife TDM makers can't argue with that. I might be mathematically wrong because I'm too lazy to do it properly, but I know I'm close.

DestroyerOfBlocks:


--- Quote from: Zay on January 28, 2013, 10:10:52 PM ---People get the wrong ideas about shops. Shops aren't meant to buy weapons themselves, they're made to buy, grenades, powerups, medkits, stuff like that. It's wrong when people put the weapons in the shop, because the server basically needs you to be good with a stuff weapon to earn better ones. In a good TDM, all weapons should be available, and grenades and health packs and powerups should be at a cheap price in the shop.

Knife TDMs are crap. Absolutely no effort and thought put into them. Who the forget invented that stuff anyway. I've seen how they build the platforms, it's literally spam. They take an 8x8 plate, cover it completely on the top with 1x1 print bricks. Then they dup it onto a zone brick in midair, and delete the botom 8x8 plate, and replace it with ceiling 1x1 prints. So basically, each platform has 64 on top and 64 on bottom, add it up and notice that EACH 8x8 platform is 128 bricks. Boom. Spam in your loving face, you fellow Knife TDM makers can't argue with that. I might be mathematically wrong because I'm too lazy to do it properly, but I know I'm close.

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actually because knife tdms often lack anything aside from the platforms the brick count is usually fine

AdinX:

What about in, per se, a death race? Is using a shop still wrong then? I mean, there should be something you can use points for, and if you're driving a 3 seat vehicle the people in your car may as well have weapons to use against other drivers... Balancing a weapon shop WELL is difficult, regardless of how you do it, but if you just give everyone all the same stuff it feels bland; oh, there's jimmy with the same exact one-shot rifle with little to no accuracy, better just spray n' pray and hope I hit him first.

There has to be a way to show people "yeah, I'm the top dog, I mean business, and I have no life so I invest all of my time into saving for this ugly assault rifle."

Honestly when people make these threads, they don't really give great fixes. The idea behind the shop is variety. What about TF2? Is that a bad game because that's a shooter with a shop with different weapons?

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