Poll

Between "sexy aliens" and "sexy furries", what's weirder?

lovey aliens are WEIRD!
30 (24.6%)
lovey furries are WEIRD!
17 (13.9%)
Both are WEIRD!
51 (41.8%)
NEITHER are weird!
24 (19.7%)

Total Members Voted: 122

Author Topic: What's Weirder; lovey Aliens or lovey Furries?  (Read 12177 times)

1. Go to Deviantart
2. Scroll down, if you can't find 1 sonic, pony, or furry thing on every page. I will personally send you a 100 dollars.
3.  :iceCream:
You any "anime" to that and you would never lose. Also sometimes at night when posting is really slow on Newest you can win.

All the aliens given as examples in the first few pages are basically just humans with paint on and some very minor prosthetics.

It doesn't matter if it's got some tiny tentacles on it's head, or it's skin is blue, if 90% of it's body is identifiably human.
You're not finding an Alien lovey, you're finding the Human Form lovey.


The difference starts to come in when you get bigger changes to that human form.
When it no longer looks quite so human, it becomes weirder.
Take this Sangheili Elite from Halo, for example.


Ignoring the fact that it is wearing body armour, and that is typically not lovey.
It has an elongated face, uncahracteristic of humans.
It has 4 exposed mandibles for a mouth, which is unusual even in most mammalian nature and in Humans.
It's legs are more similar in structure to that of a horse, although in mirror. Once the upper-leg meets the knee, the lower leg bends backwards until the ankle.
Compare it to this leg, if it was mirrored.


What it comes down to is that aliens that don't share much of the human form are, as far as I can say in my own subjective view, less attractive and more weird.
Compare that to many of the alien races within the Mass Effect world, where you have much more humanoid Turians and Asari. They do have some key differences from humans, such as a rocky appearance or tentacle-like heads.
But their overall form is human.



When you get down to furries, that being Anthropomorphic Animals, it starts to enter a similar area.
The difference with Furries however, is that each one is usually based on a different animal.
And depending on that animal, it's relation to the human-form when anthropomorphosised is different.

For example, a furry based off of a bird is much less likely to appear human like.
You now start to have things like a beak (very unnatural and un-human), feathers (not a mammalian feature) and wings, which obviously are an entirely new limb that aren't found on humans.

The above image, taken from DeviantArt, is a generally good example.
It retains a considerable level of humanness, based on it's human torso and vaguely similar leg structure, but it's undeniably non-human, as shown by it's wings, feathers, beak, tail and feet.

I personally, find it difficult to see this image, or those similar to it, as attractive.
It's simply not human in nature.


But you then can easily enter a world where furries can look more human. While their actual animal counterpart may be considerably different in appearance to humans, it's anthropomorphic image can be very human in appearance.

The Wolf, and many other Canines for example, can show some similarity to the human form.

This image, taken from wikifur.com, is a good example.
The drawing style itself is cartoon-y in nature, which is a point I'll make in a moment.

This character has a regular human toros, and normal legs which stand up straight and unbent.
It's arms are of a normal human shape, and it's hands and feet, while based somewhat on canine feet and the padding around their claws, isn't too dissimlar from humans.
The lack of visible claws in itself aids the image, as claws are a non-human feature.

The biggest difference from the human-form is the furred nature of the character, and canine features such as a tail and upwards pointing ears placed upon and slightly to the side of the head.
The mouth is similar to a canine, in that it is on a snout, but this is short and doesn't protrude a lot.
It also doesn't show un-human oral structures, like a beak or long thin tongue.


Personally, I would find this image much more closely related to humans, and therefore much easier to find attractive in any loveual tense, presuming the image was designed more provocatively.

The concept of provoctivity is also key to the issue. The above Wolf picture is drawn very much in a cartoon style.
It focuses on a laid-back, almost caricature-style approach.
For some, this may be easier to mold into a loveual design.
For others, it is too similar to images appropriate for young children.
Compared to the Bird Image above, which features more detailed and serious designs, the two images are difficult to claim to be similar.
For that reason alone, it's a very difficult question to ask if Furries are lovey.

It entirely depends upon both the human form expressed within the image, the provocative design of the image itself (such as loveual actions) and the style of the image.
Not all styles work for all people.



Overall, I personally find that the weirder side of furry and alien loveiness comes about when the depictions are entirely un-human in appearance.
This is most obviously shown when you get furry creatures which are either mythological, such as Griffins, or those which are distantly related to humans or the mammalian line, such as Sharks or Lizards.

And then the same is equally true of aliens and their design.
Those which have extremely human appearances, like the Asari of Mass Effect, or the green-skinned Orion girls of Star Trek, or the Twi'Lek babes of Star Wars, will easily appeal to many people.
There is so little in difference between the two designs of these aliens and humans, that you can easily imagine the character as a human.

But the moment you stray into non-human territories, it all changes.
While there may be those with a special interest for such things, I think it would generally be accepted as more difficult to find this lovey.

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This is a topic all on opinion though, so take it with a pinch of salt.

I can't find aliens or furries to be weirder than the other.

Some aliens are just very weird to find lovey, like the xenomorph.
Others, and some furry images, lend themselves to loveiness quite easily, because they're very humanly designed.


IMO, it really gets weird when you start finding something lovey that doesn't look in anyway human.
Which for me, and I'll say it, includes people who find the MLP characters to be lovey. And there are people out there who find them lovey, even when un-humanised.
Humanise them, fine. Leave them as they are, weird.

you're one of the people on this forum that can back yourself up in an argument well

Liara was hot af, but shes a humanoid alien. Literally the only thing separating her from someone who painted themselves blue are her head tentacles. If she had a dog face on the other hand I dont think id be hittin' it before missions.

itt furries trying to prove that their fandom is not forgeted up. and failing miserably.

The only reason I would ever like furries is because when I was little I watch a bunch of TV shows with animals having human characteristics, so because of nostalgia, I would like furries because there similar to what I grew up watching.

ninjad'

how can the poll be titled "whats weirder" when there are options for both/neither.

handicap


I determined this from my experience and talking to various acquaintances whom are considered members of the Furry community.
'Personal Experience' is not a valid argument.
If you're going to form an opinion based off of the responses of the members of the community, you need to form it based off of all of them, not just the ones that conform to your preconceived ideas. Every fandom has its annoying, strange, or even dysfunctional minority, and as Night Fox said earlier, it sounds like these are the ones you are talking to.

I see Furries as people who are insecure about the human body and who have not had healthy loveual experiences.
I'm entirely secure with my body and loveuality.
It's just that, for some reason, I have no idea why, I have never had an interest in research of humans, so when I found something I did like, I went with it. I understand that it's a bit weird and that people don't want to see it, so I don't post it everywhere and I don't even talk about it with people unless I know they're interested.
I am still fully interested, loveual fantasies and all, in humans that I can actually meet in real life.
 
Furries are attracted to their furry fantasies because they have haven't had a healthy loveual experience in their life yet.
There are plenty of furries who are in healthy, loveually active relationships.
Whether or not you've had love or not has no impact on whether or not you are a furry, just as it has no impact on any other interest, loveual or otherwise.

Do people who have love with furry creatures stop after they've had normal love?
Do you see what you're doing?
Except there is no love with said furry creatures, because said furry creatures do not exist.
As far as research goes, no, most people do not stop looking at research, even when they're in a committed relationship.

Lets put my loving fursona in my loving facebook profile so everyone loving knows?
While I don't get the point of this, furry is not unique in this aspect (or any aspect that you're ranting about, really). I plenty of friends interested in anime who have their own anime character that they use as their profile picture.

EDIT: I'll take up your bet. Go have a long relationship with a real woman, and I can guarantee you that you wont be such a furry anymore.
You have absolutely nothing to base this argument on except for a belief based off of personal experience.
You're also refusing to listen to anyone who attempts to tell you otherwise




Anyways, to answer the OP question. I'd choose neither.
'Alien' is extremely broad term. What kind of alien? The archetypical green skeen, bulbous head huge eyes? Mass Effect's Asari? One of the many races from Star Trek that look extremely human like (don't know any of the names cuz I've never been interested in the show, I just know that they're there) The question doesn't even specify extraterrestrial, could we be referring to Human foreigners?
« Last Edit: July 12, 2013, 12:12:47 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

how can the poll be titled "whats weirder" when there are options for both/neither.

handicap

Seriously?  I gave people the option to go with both or neither in case they had neutral feelings on the subject, which I think is an important thing to record.  Fine if you don't like it, but you don't have to be a richard about it.

Anyways, to answer the OP question. I'd choose neither.
'Alien' is extremely broad term. What kind of alien? The archetypical green skeen, bulbous head huge eyes? Mass Effect's Asari? One of the many races from Star Trek that look extremely human like (don't know any of the names cuz I've never been interested in the show, I just know that they're there) The question doesn't even specify extraterrestrial, could we be referring to Human foreigners?

Honestly, I don't really know.  Things like the Asari or Twi'lek always just struck me as kind of freaky, and it seemed odd to me that they are somehow much more widely-accepted as "lovey" than "furries" in general.

Honestly, I don't really know.  Things like the Asari or Twi'lek always just struck me as kind of freaky, and it seemed odd to me that they are somehow much more widely-accepted as "lovey" than "furries" in general.
I really think when it comes down to aliens like Asari, Orions and Twi'lek, it's just because everything basically from the eye-brows down is human.

And when you think of it like that, it's just a blue/green woman, likely in spandex or tight-fitting clothing or some sort, or wearing revealing clothes.

It's just raw love appeal to most men, which is the reason it was included in those games and movies.
Nothing sells better than love.

Seriously?  I gave people the option to go with both or neither in case they had neutral feelings on the subject

nuetral feelings is for NOT VOTING!

you are just another one of those topic whores who wants everyone and anyone to take part. bigger numbers = more self esteem right?

Nothing sells better than love.

With the possible exception of hotcakes.

nuetral feelings is for NOT VOTING!

you are just another one of those topic whores who wants everyone and anyone to take part. bigger numbers = more self esteem right?

Really?  I politely disagree and ask you not to be a richard, and you come back with this.  I created this topic and poll out of curiosity, and nothing more.  It is nice if more people vote, yes, but that's really not the point.  I feel that more options is always better than fewer.