Author Topic: Zapk's Rising Lava � Map Voting! � p60 (Read 88410 times)

RaR · August 09, 2013, 11:30:37 PM

Quote from: Shortcut on August 09, 2013, 10:54:57 PM

yeah there are random spots where you just fall through

but suggestion for drop zone? after some period of time, the lasers glow yellow for a few seconds to warn that they will disappear, then they turn red and down have collision so people can fall through

that's actually a really good idea

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Nal · August 09, 2013, 11:32:59 PM

Quote from: Momentum on August 09, 2013, 07:48:55 PM

its removed in the updated version (zapk hasnt updated it though

also, i made another map.

thanks for giving me credit you cigarette

*FacePalm* · August 09, 2013, 11:37:49 PM

Quote from: Qwepir on August 09, 2013, 07:56:22 PM

Looks like fun, I love how your maps don't have an abundance of walls and corners for people to hide in and be "safe". Keeps the tension up since you can get KO'd from just about anywhere.

this is kinda why i want to make the LOHAC map
LOHAC is pretty much all scaffolding and scantling, there's no place to be safe and snug.

KickFlow · August 10, 2013, 01:09:43 AM

I've been banned by siba (I'm assuming) because I singled him out to kill him.

I blocked a door once, only once, and he kicked me for it, without warning. (I wasn't evenblocking and I have a picture proof)

I find the ban uncalled for, and if it was by siba, I suggest reconsidering his position as admin.
I don't recall acting like a prick to anyone on the server, either.

If you could unban me, as I enjoy the server a lot.

Funny, I'm not banned at tunzuni's server, and banned at this one for no reason.

Conservative · August 10, 2013, 01:43:44 AM

Quote from: Conservative on August 09, 2013, 08:32:39 PM

We begin a round of HyperTower, I spawn elsewhere in the map, and instantly I see Pass complain to an unnamed user to move.

Kickflow quickly says "no", so I spy on Pass.

Kickflow is happily blocking a doorway before the pushbroom stage, so I go into the ban menu and kick him.

He comes back pissed that I did so, asking me why I didn't "warn him" and kept trying to justify it by saying "but there's another way".

He sent me this link, http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lnv1b9&s=5

I told him you blocked a doorway with no way around it, plain and simple, and everyone in the server basically agreed with me.

So round ends, we start a game of Doomland, I as well as tons of other players run over to the giant slanted pink and bluish wall.

Kickflow proceeds to do everything in his power to get me killed, by blocking the cube steps and walking left and right as I jump at him.

He is successful in killing me, and begins to rub it in my face with various things such as "ded" and "someone spy on siba, oh wait, he's dead".

I feel powerless because of my previous claims, he blocked a doorway, I said he blocked a doorway players could not get around, and that was the reason I kicked him.

But then I thought of how you gave me the benefit of judging how I deal with the players in the server, and also remembered there was a notice stating not to block players on stairs as well, and while it sounded like more of a suggestion, I've banned him for three days.

I don't expect him to keep quiet about this (drama and such), but I hope I did the right thing.

~PM sent from me to Zapk.

Zapk confirmed that he believed it was justified ingame.

KickFlow · August 10, 2013, 02:03:38 AM

"siba<font:Verdana:12>: Kickflow you are banned for acting like an starfish by rubbing the fact that you blocked me and got me killed on the second round."
From RTB chat ^

Acting like an starfish shouldn't be a bannable offence.

You honestly should cut a regular visitor that's been joining the server since it has been started some slack. I didn't know what I was doing for my "second offence" was against the rules, as I did it to Zapk and he didn't do anything about it.

Conservative · August 10, 2013, 02:18:25 AM

Well damn, I wasn't going to post this chat but now I guess I have to.

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[02:12:42] Kickflow: Let me guess you banned me from lava rising server?
[02:24:47] siba: 3 day ban.
[02:25:10] siba: I talked with Zapk about your ban.
[02:25:17] Kickflow: what did i do
[02:25:19] siba: All types of blocking is a bannable offense.
[02:25:30] Kickflow: you kicked me for it
[02:25:33] Kickflow: that's all
[02:25:34] siba: Well, blatant blocking like that.
[02:25:38] siba: You blocked again.
[02:25:40] siba: Next round.
[02:25:44] siba: Specifically to get back at me.
[02:25:46] Kickflow: I didn't block you?
[02:25:52] Kickflow: I killed you, get over it
[02:2:11] siba: You jumped on the stairs, turned around, and moved left and right as I jumped at the steps.
[02:26:26] siba: You blocked, and at the time, I did not know I could ban you for it.
[02:26:36] siba: So I talked with Zapk about it.
[02:26:42] siba: And then I banned you.
[02:26:49] Kickflow: I loving killed you and you're a little bitch about it
[02:27:06] siba: Yes, you killed me.
[02:27:16] Kickflow: by playing the game
[02:27:17] siba: You killed me using a tactic that is not allowed.
[02:27:18] Kickflow: god damn
[02:27:27] Kickflow: pushing you off the map?
[02:27:30] siba: You can spawnkill and be playing the game, we are not debating that.
[02:28:01] siba: And you seem to be avoiding the fact that what you did was blocking.
[02:28:02] Kickflow: how am I spawn killing
[02:28:22] siba: You were not banned for killing me.
[02:28:26] siba: You were banned for blocking.
[02:28:43] Kickflow: I wasn't blocking
[02:28:44] Kickflow: when
[02:28:51] Kickflow: besides the one door that you kicked me for
[02:29:02] siba: The added on "acting like a prick", or whtever it was after the ban message was because you rubbed it in my face by bringing it up twice afterwards.
[02:29:18] Kickflow: when have I blocked you
[02:29:32] siba: So you're claiming you never blocked now?
[02:29:51] Kickflow: besides the staircase on the floating map
[02:29:55] Kickflow: yes
[02:30:06] siba: That is what I was talking about, Kickflow.
[02:30:12] Kickflow: You kicked me for it
[02:30:15] Kickflow: I got no warning
[02:30:18] siba: I banned you for it after that.
[02:30:20] Kickflow: you just banned me after
[02:30:23] siba: Wait.
[02:30:32] siba: The staircase kick was the first offense.
[02:30:37] Kickflow: yes
[02:30:39] siba: The staircase in Doomland was the second offense.
[02:30:39] Kickflow: that's the only time
[02:30:54] Kickflow: we had pushbrooms you could push me away at that point
[02:30:59] siba: You jumped on and moved back and forth to block me from jumping up.
[02:31:07] Kickflow: Kalph does that to me every round
[02:31:08] siba: This was before, and after the pushbroom stage.
[02:31:10] Kickflow: ban him
[02:31:22] siba: I have never seen Kalphiter use this tactic.
[02:31:33] Kickflow: Because you never seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happen?
[02:31:41] Kickflow: pretty sure racer used it too
[02:31:50] Kickflow: I used it on zapk for damn sake
[02:31:5] siba: I don't know whether or not you're just claiming it right now because you have no evidence.
[02:31:54] Kickflow: he didn't do anything
[02:31:59] siba: When I see it happen, I say something about it.
[02:32:02] siba: Or I take action.
[02:32:26] Kickflow: Want to give me a warning first?
[02:32:35] Kickflow: it shouldn't be an imediet ban
[02:32:40] siba: It was not.
[02:32:44] siba: That was the second offense.
[02:32:44] Kickflow: yes it was
[02:32:59] Kickflow: If I known that tactic was "blocking" I wouldn't have used it
[02:33:06] Kickflow: Its been used on me
[02:33:10] Kickflow: and I did it to zapk
[02:33:23] siba: If you were smart you wouldn't have BLOCKED, me from jumping on the steps.
[02:33:35] Kickflow: no need to insult me bro
[02:33:36] siba: AFTER I kicked you for the FIRST offense.
[02:33:42] Kickflow: I'm blocking so people can't by
[02:33:46] Kickflow: on the first time
[02:33:51] Kickflow: the second you could have gotten by
[02:33:57] Kickflow: again
[02:34:03] Kickflow: Its been used on me
[02:34:05] siba: [02:33:42] Kickflow: I'm blocking so people can't by
[02:34:08] Kickflow: and I did it to zapk
[02:34:12] siba: B l o c k i n g.
[02:34:17] siba: Is against the r u l e s.
[02:34:24] siba: Get it through your thick loving skull.
[02:34:36] Kickflow: Kickflow: I'm blocking so people can't byKickflow: on the first time
[02:34:44] Kickflow: read the second line smart ass
[02:34:54] siba: Your second line makes no loving sense.
[02:35:00] Kickflow: god damn siba
[02:35:00] siba: What does "on the first time" mean.
[02:35:10] Kickflow: The first offence
[02:35:16] Kickflow: (and only)
[02:35:25] siba: You blocked on the second as well.
[02:35:30] Kickflow: can you read
[02:35:37] Kickflow: Its been used on me
[02:35:43] Kickflow: and I did it to zapk
[02:35:6] siba: Using your player as a tool of making it impossible for a player to get around you counts as blocking.
[02:35:52] Kickflow: if i knew it was against the rules I wouldn't have done it
[02:35:57] siba: I couldn't give less of a stuff if you did it to Zapk, I am not Zapk.
[02:36:01] siba: Stop bringing up Zapk.
[02:36:21] Kickflow: I'm sayng that I did it on him so I would assume it's not agains the rules otherwise he would have done something
[02:36:28] siba: And if I saw someone use it on you I would have said something.
[02:36:35] siba: I don't see every loving thing that goes on.
[02:37:06] Kickflow: ZAPK WAS THERE
[02:37:09 siba: You were kicked for the first offence of blocking on hyper tower, you blocked again in doomland.
[02:37:13] Kickflow: siba
[02:37:14] Kickflow: shush
[02:37:15] Kickflow: listen
[02:37:24] siba: Kickflow.
[02:37:24] Kickflow: If you did something to the HOST
[02:37:29] siba: I am not zapk.
[02:37:31] Kickflow: and he didn't do anything about it
[02:37:33] Kickflow: loving LISTEN
[02:37:35] Kickflow: holy stuff
[02:37:42] siba: I put it through with Zapk, he told me it was okay what I did.
[02:37:45] siba: The ban I placed.
[02:37:52] siba: He believed it was justified.
[02:38:02] siba: That instantly overrules anything you could possibly say about him right now.
[02:38:31] Kickflow: why are you a richardhole
[02:38:38] Kickflow: if it was vice versa I would listen to your side
[02:39:05] siba: Well I'm glad I'm not in your position, I'd hate to be arguing this way.
[02:39:11] siba: Because forget, I can barely talk to you.
[02:39:18] Kickflow: You won't let me talk holy stuff
[02:39:20] Kickflow: Listen
[02:39:26] Kickflow: do you have skype so we can talk about it
[02:39:32] siba: No forget that.
[02:39:45] siba: You provide your case here and now.
[02:39:58] Kickflow: I did
[02:40:00] Kickflow: 20 times
[02:40:02] Kickflow: you won't listen
[02:40:09] siba: I'm seriously considering bringing this chat up with Zapk again.
[02:40:16] siba: Okay.
[02:40:20] siba: Say what you want to say.
[02:40:27] siba: I will not 'interupt'.
[02:40:33] Kickflow: so if you did somethng infront of the host, he didn't do anything about it, you would assume it's not against the rules, correct?
[02:40:51] siba: No.
[02:40:59] Kickflow: Why not
[02:41:02] siba: Because I got confirmation from the host later.
[02:41:13] Kickflow: I didn't know it was a rule
[02:41:14] Kickflow: god dam
[02:41:17] siba: Why the host wouldn't have punished me in the first place, I do not know.
[02:41:43] Kickflow: assume you're in my position not yours
[02:41:48] Kickflow: a player not an admin
[02:41:50] siba: Okay.
[02:42:17] Kickflow: you're "blocking" the host. and he doesn't say anything, and goes another route
[02:42:22] Kickflow: and you don't know
[02:42:27] Kickflow: what you're doing is against the rules
[02:42:32] Kickflow: and the host doesn't do anything to you
[02:42:42] Kickflow: you are safe to assume it's NOT a rule.
[02:42:53] Kickflow: I never heard it was against the rules
[02:44:00] Kickflow: This is for a ban-appeal, not just a debate.
[02:45:06] siba: Okay now here's my side of the story, assuming that did happen.
[02:45:16] siba: I was not there, when you blocked Zapk.
[02:45:24] siba: I was probably not even an admin at this point.
[02:45:30] siba: That, or I did not see it happen in the server.
[02:45:37] siba: The server is full of players after all.
[02:45:59] siba: Zapk tells me I am free to judge what happens to the players that I believe do a wrong.
[02:46:13] Kickflow: ah
[02:6:20] siba: And given the fact that no blocking is spread about the server, I'd say it was against the rules.
[02:46:37] siba: See, you're in the wrong because you persisted, by blocking the very next round.
[02:46:55] siba: I kicked you once for blocking, your basic argument was that I did not warn you.
[02:47:07] siba: But the game has a time limit countdown to the pushbroom stage.
[02:47:7] siba: In this time, players are supposed to be safe, and climb as high as possible as quick as possible.
[02:47:44] siba: You blocking that door may slow the players down in one way or another.
[02:47:56] siba: That, and it is plain just a richard move.
[02:48:10] Kickflow: Well, for that being a richard move
[02:48:13] siba: I don't care that you have a picture that shows that there was another way around.
[02:48:21] siba: You blocked a path that players use to climb.
[02:48:41] Kickflow: I was only intending to block pass, because we're friends and were in a skype call
[02:48:55] siba: It should have ended with a simple "Sorry, I didn't know it was against the rules."
[02:48:57] Kickflow: I didn't mean to block the rest of the people, my appologiese
[02:49:17] siba: But you persisted with complaints that I did not warn you.
[02:49:27] Kickflow: well i mean
[02:49:30] siba: Next round, I decide to play this round as well.
[02:49:49] siba: You follow through with many other players to these steps, and quickly turn around.
[02:49:58] siba: You try to block the first step, but I get around you.
[02:50:07] siba: I jump up a few steps, and you manage to get infront of me.
[02:50:12] siba: In the first turn.
[02:50:21] siba: You then move left and right as I jump at the step.
[02:50:27] siba: You made it impossible for me to pass you.
[02:50:36] siba: And when you got your pushbroom, you pushed me into the lava.
[02:50:51] siba: End of story.
[02:51:11] Kickflow: I see
[02:51:39] Kickflow: Well, I'm sorry for my actions on the doomland map.

Very little admins would put up with what I put up with, and now I'm considering going back on the increasing ban line simply because you persist because I will not unban your current ban.

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[02:54:38] Kickflow: Well, I apologize for my actions on the doomland map, I didn't know that was what was considered blocking. My mistake.
[02:54:53] siba: Okay.
[02:54:57] siba: Everything resolved now?
[02:55:08] Kickflow: Well.
[02:55:28] siba: No seriously, it ends now.
[02:55:43] Kickflow: I see where you're coming from for the ban, but now that we clarified both our sides, I'm asking for a ban-appeal
[02:55:45] siba: I'll see to it that your ban does not increase, but I don't know what Zapk's decision will be.
[02:56:03] siba: But you're going to stay banned for the remainder of the three days.
[02:56:10] Kickflow: Seriously?
[02:56:47] siba: This is, more than enough for me to get it increased but you've realised the error in your ways.
[02:56:48] Kickflow: It was your ban, aren't you allowed to modify it as you wish as you were the one that did it?[02:57:00] siba: I don't want to modify it.[02:57:10] Kickflow: It's the weekend, that's what I'd like to do on the weekend.
[02:57:12] Kickflow: :/[02:57:20] siba: You knowing what you did wrong does not change it for me.
[02:57:44] siba: You've still bothered me a hell of a lot more than most of the people I deal with.
[02:57:48] Kickflow: I promise I will not do it again, and if I do, you can increase my ban length?
[02:58:03] siba: Kickflow, you can come back on in two days.[02:58:09] siba: Till then, don't forget up.
[02:58:15] Kickflow: In 2 days is the week days
[02:58:21] Kickflow: I play on the weekends
[02:59:24] Kickflow: I've been a regular on that server for about as long as it's been up, and I don't see how this conversation didn't do anything
[02:59:31] Kickflow: to my ban
[02:59:59] siba: You saying this basically tells me you're probably just going with what I said simply beacuse you want to be unbanned.
[03:00:17] siba: Kickflow, you still did it.
[03:00:30] Kickflow: That's incorrect
[03:00:31] siba: Nothing will change that.
[03:00:42] Kickflow: and I did do it.
[03:01:23] Kickflow: No, honestly. I understand what you said and I understand why you banned me.
[03:01:37] Kickflow: You didn't know what I did with zapk earlier.
[03:01:55] Kickflow: and you only seeing what JUST happned, gave you the right to ban me
[03:02:09] Kickflow: Though, you didn't hear my side.
[03:02:21] siba: Kickflow you are banned for acting like an starfish by rubbing the fact that you blocked me and got me killed on the second round.[03:02:26] siba: You were kicked for the first offense.
[03:02:29] siba: Goodbye.
[03:02:30] * You have blocked Kickflow.

EDIT: 2:12 - 3:02 , almost an hour of arguing.

Quote from: KickFlow on August 10, 2013, 02:03:38 AM

Acting like an starfish shouldn't be a bannable offence.

Hilarious.

Sleven · August 10, 2013, 03:19:31 AM

Quote from: KickFlow on August 10, 2013, 02:03:38 AM

Acting like an starfish shouldn't be a bannable offence.

Learn how to run a server m8.

Paradon · August 10, 2013, 04:56:08 AM

Quote from: KickFlow on August 10, 2013, 02:03:38 AM

Acting like an starfish shouldn't be a bannable offence.

Ahahaha what?!
Why the forget shouldn't being an starfish be a ban reason?
That's pretty much the only rule on most servers!

e-maxx · August 10, 2013, 08:48:17 AM

Quote from: KickFlow on August 10, 2013, 02:03:38 AM

"siba<font:Verdana:12>: Kickflow you are banned for acting like an starfish by rubbing the fact that you blocked me and got me killed on the second round."
From RTB chat ^

Acting like an starfish shouldn't be a bannable offence. yes it should

You honestly should cut a regular visitor that's been joining the server since it has been started some slack. I didn't know what I was doing for my "second offence" was against the rules, as I did it to Zapk and he didn't do anything about it. no he shouldn't cut you some slack if anything he would be stricter because you know the rules and how they operate

Momentum · August 10, 2013, 08:53:46 AM

Quote from: Qwepir on August 09, 2013, 07:56:22 PM

Looks like fun, I love how your maps don't have an abundance of walls and corners for people to hide in and be "safe". Keeps the tension up since you can get KO'd from just about anywhere.

ive designed my maps toc basically be the opposite of the pyrimaid, which i hate, as all it is is a waiting game, you hide in the top floor, then go up once the lava gets too high.

Quote from: Gizmo. on August 09, 2013, 10:21:53 PM

Are there supposed to be holes in the floating pads on drop zone, because there is.

i updated the map. it fixes the holes. i also added more bridges for the corner towers which didnt have any.

carolcat · August 10, 2013, 01:05:40 PM

Quote from: Momentum on August 10, 2013, 08:53:46 AM

ive designed my maps toc basically be the opposite of the pyrimaid, which i hate, as all it is is a waiting game, you hide in the top floor, then go up once the lava gets too high.

yeah the pyramid map is one of my least favorites but it's okay if it's just you and a few friends who don't sit around and do nothing
doomland is another one of my least favorites, mainly because most people just go up to the bowl of champions and then sit in corners and stare at eachother

but yeah keep up the good work on your builds, they suit this gamemode really well

KickFlow · August 10, 2013, 01:38:32 PM

Quote from: Sleven on August 10, 2013, 03:19:31 AM

Learn how to run a server m8.

Quote from: Paradon on August 10, 2013, 04:56:08 AM

Ahahaha what?!
Why the forget shouldn't being an starfish be a ban reason?
That's pretty much the only rule on most servers!

I was playing the game and singling him out to kill him, how does that make it a bannable offence? Sounds like a personal issue to me!

Evan5626 · August 10, 2013, 02:50:31 PM

Quote from: KickFlow on August 10, 2013, 01:38:32 PM

I was playing the game and singling him out to kill him, how does that make it a bannable offence? Sounds like a personal issue to me!

It wouldn't be a problem if you weren't taunting him constantly after you killed him. Killing is part of the game, but it isn't necessary to make petty comments at the player that you killed when they did nothing to you that you didn't deserve.

SWAT One · August 10, 2013, 03:14:41 PM

Lesson #1: If you're being an starfish, people won't like you.
Lesson #2: Rules are there for a reason. If you don't think that obeying them is a good idea, expect a consequence.
Lesson #3: Complaining will get you nowhere.

I'm sure most people learn these as toddlers. They fact that you didn't makes me concerned. Please take it to drama.

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RaR

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KickFlow

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