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Damsel in Distress loveist Trope
ultimamax:
that's what feminists strive for. by tearing down destructive cultural norms, we would benefit both men and women alike. if you so wish, you can call yourself a humanist and do the same work. i think feminists are just convinced that in a sort of domino effect, fighting for women will benefit men. also, the argument could be made that women need feminism more than men need MRA right now.
Harm94:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on August 07, 2013, 02:40:27 AM ---itt: everyone thinks all feminists are dyke bitches who are complaining about nothing/pretending to be oppressed/tryna gain "female superiority"
this generation of feminism is a lot different. they are focusing on cultural change, striving towards a culture that doesn't portray women or men stereotypically.
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There is feminism then there is pseudo feminism which is what is bolded. Most I have come into contact with are pseudo feminists. I've been hearing about a subgroup that hates men or trains their young males to sit while they pee, circumcising them so they can't masturbate, some even to want to go as far as sterilize men because they might rape a woman.
rockslide26:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on August 07, 2013, 02:50:50 AM ---that's what feminists strive for. by tearing down destructive cultural norms, we would benefit both men and women alike. if you so wish, you can call yourself a humanist and do the same work. i think feminists are just convinced that in a sort of domino effect, fighting for women will benefit men. also, the argument could be made that women need feminism more than men need MRA right now.
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I don't believe you can fight for both genders by just working to fix the problems of one. I'd think that would be more of a humanist idea.
Pseudo-feminists are a different breed and doesn't cause a domino effect at all, it's taking steps backwards.
Harm94:
In order to bring some form of social equality people need to understand the differences of both genders and address the issues both face. However on the psychical side of things someone will always argue why should a women get paid as much as a man for not working as hard as hard as man(think construction jobs).
ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Harm94 on August 07, 2013, 02:53:36 AM ---There is feminism then there is pseudo feminism which is what is bolded. Most I have come into contact with are pseudo feminists. I've been hearing about a subgroup that hates men or trains their young males to sit while they pee, circumcising them so they can't masturbate, some even to want to go as far as sterilize men because they might rape a woman.
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okay. but people are acting as though a majority of the feminist movement is these "psuedo feminists", when they are a vocal, irritating minority, who would not even be considered feminists by most.
--- Quote from: rockslide26 on August 07, 2013, 02:55:54 AM ---I don't believe you can fight for both genders by just working to fix the problems of one. I'd think that would be more of a humanist idea.
Pseudo-feminists are a different breed and doesn't cause a domino effect at all, it's taking steps backwards.
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http://feminspire.com/feminism-its-good-for-men-too/
i admit the patriarchy quote is a bit campy, but it's true. men in media are usually portrayed as clumsy buffoons.
--- Quote from: Harm94 on August 07, 2013, 03:02:02 AM ---In order to bring some form of social equality people need to understand the differences of both genders and address the issues both face. However on the psychical side of things someone will always argue why should a women get paid as much as a man for not working as hard as hard as man(think construction jobs).
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iirc the 70c to a dollar statistic is based on groups of men and women in the same company, same position, same time frame, so the idea that women are making less than men due to loveism is valid.