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Damsel in Distress loveist Trope
rockslide26:
--- Quote from: Tonkka² on August 04, 2013, 07:20:00 AM ---The problem is that men and women are not equal. Men are stronger, women are smarter. Women are wider from the waist and so on. If we ever want to get rid of loveism we have to wait for science to turn us into gender-less beings. Same goes for race and loveuality. People are going to be mocked for these things forever because these differences exist. If we wanted to have a world where no one was mocked for anything, we would also have to say goodbye to getting cheered or honored for something, because in that world everything is grey. No one would be capable of having any opinions, celebrities don't exist because everyone would be 100% equal and dull.
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While that might be true that on average men are stronger, again, most of the reason for that is purely societal, but yes, it is partially due to genetics and gender, but actually it's in a larger part due to societal pressures. Look at the picture of a man considered "attractive" by the general public. Odds are he has large, clearly visible muscles showing. There isn't actually much of a difference in lower body strength between the average man and woman, but in upper body strength, there is a huge difference, and the reason for that is mostly due to societal pressure to build those muscles for the sake of appearance.
I'm not saying it's realistic in any manner for both genders to be completely equal, my assertion was that society is just as pitched against men, if not more so, but men get squashed every time they bring it up because society is supposedly male-dominated, therefore men can't have problems. I agree that there are biases for and against both genders, but in campaigning for equality, you can't demand more privilege than another, that kills the whole sense of equality. My point is, I don't understand why feminists are so sold on the idea that women are being oppressed, because in the united states, at least, they're not, at least not to a degree more than men are like they seem to believe.
Bisjac:
--- Quote from: Tonkka² on August 04, 2013, 07:20:00 AM ---women are smarter
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well genetically neither gender is "smarter" then the other.
but in the real world here. statistically, men are smarter. and thats a fact.
likely by design. woman fill less and less roles in the world. equality movements allowed them to pick their own paths. unfortunately most of them didnt raise the bar high enough.
Freeze:
In my opinion it's really up to females to speak out if they're really offended by this sort of thing and if the majority of them are then something obviously needs to change. You can't have tons of people getting offended and nothing changing really, it's not fair.
On the other hand if the majority of females are fine with it then nothing really should change if it's just a few people not liking it.
It's not really up to me, or other males in my opinion to speak out for or against this woman as it doesn't concern us as much. I couldn't care less if the prize at the end of a video game is a woman or if it's cake but if people are offended by one of them then why not just have the other to make everyone happy?
(also yes this means if you're a male and you're offended by something in a video game feel free to speak up : \ )
Tonkka²:
--- Quote from: Bisjac on August 04, 2013, 12:01:49 PM ---well genetically neither gender is "smarter" then the other.
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Well not really "smarter", but one of my teachers has told me that women have an advantage in some mental things.
Then again the teacher was female so she could have been a stuck-up cunt.
Dodger:
Women generally tend to be smarter statistically because fathers send them to college to learn fine arts while the sons take over family business or take on some other strong arm job. I'm generalizing a bit here, but it is pretty true.
--- Quote from: Tonkka² on August 04, 2013, 12:20:41 PM ---Well not really "smarter", but one of my teachers has told me that women have an advantage in some mental things.
Then again the teacher was female so she could have been a stuck-up cunt.
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Sure each gender tends to have advantages and disadvantages in certain mental processing tasks but it tends to even out overall. Claiming that women are smarter outright is something only close minded (and ironically less informed) feminists would do.