Author Topic: Help me on my religion project by awnsering 4 quesions.  (Read 7330 times)

Honestly, the idea that an omniscient god would create humans with free will and not know they were going to forget up, or that he did know and punished them anyway is nonsense.

God said to subdue the earth. Scientific research falls under this. It's when origin science (Creationism, Evolution, etc) get mixed in the equation that it supposedly disproves God and in turn apparently "disallows" Christians to investigate because it would "prove them wrong".

Evolution is not origin science. Abiogenesis and evolution are completely unrelated.

Also, evolution does not disprove god, it disproves the idea that Earth and everything on it were created as is.
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Evolution is not origin science. Abiogenesis and evolution are completely unrelated.
cosmic evolution is another word for the Big Bang

cosmic evolution is another word for the Big Bang

The Big Bang doesn't disprove god either.

1. Do you believe god exists? Why or why not?

I believe that there is some form of omnipowerful entity in existence, yes. This is for one very specific reason, quantum uncertainty. As explained in this video, the electrons and quarks, protons and neutrons, etc that make up our universe, are impossible to predict. They will appear (and in some cases, disappear) completely randomly. If you make up every single one of these combinations of outcomes, you have everything that ever has happened and everything that ever could happen. In my opinion, whatever is controlling this is 'god', as it has the power to control the entire universe.

2. What is faith?
Faith is believing that something is true or factual.

3. What has led you to believe or to doubt? Why?
I believe that there is a god because in my opinion, the evidence I've brought makes sense. Until science finds out how the randomness of the interactions of quantum particles work and how to control it, my beliefs are firmly held.

4. What makes your life meaningful/worthwhile?
The only thing I live for is to make others lives and my own as good as it can possibly be.

Parents who scold their children for asking are only doing that because they're uneducated and don't know the answer themselves. It's wrong of them to do that
You and Kearn are both focusing on the specific examples, and not the actual issue that examples are being provided for: organized religion's silencing of any questioning
The questions I'm talking about aren't things such as "what does the bible say about _____" that could have an actual correct answer for. I'm talking about questions that directly question faith, a question asking for clarification on something the child finds doubtful, or actions that would lead to questioning. Someone told me a story once of their childhood, I don't rememeber where I heard it. But as a child, this person was very scientifically minded. In sunday school, the child's teacher made a claim of something that would happen, and this child saw a way to test the claim, he brought it up, and the teacher was appalled. She talked to the child, the child's parents, some higher up in the church, etc. Why? Because if this test was conducted, the thing the teacher claimed would happen would be shown to not happen, and the child would begin questioning.

And there are no Bible verses condemning good research and investigation to test and see if it is valid. The only verse I can think of that you may be referring to is the one that says "you should not test the Lord your God" or something along those lines, and that's referring to something totally different.
And who decides what a verse means? There are tons of verses that have multiple interpretations.
Which leads my to another reason for doubting: Clearly people are having trouble interpreting God's word, and how God wants them to live their lives. Why would he not clarify?


Well I'm not answering for all close minded religious people, I'm answering for myself and some others. Of course there are close minded people that try to silence others because they don't have an answer, people who are too ignorant to think for themselves. And that's wrong, I agree with you on that. But there are plenty of people that don't mind getting into an in-depth conversation and actually investigating for an answer, like I try to do.

And who decides what a verse means? There are tons of verses that have multiple interpretations.
Which leads my to another reason for doubting: Clearly people are having trouble interpreting God's word, and how God wants them to live their lives. Why would he not clarify?
Well yeah, verses are up for interpretation. But most of the time if you just take some time and look at it's context, it's not hard to decide on one that most people will agree with. Or at least, that's how it is with the verses that matter as far as living one's life. If you want to know how to live your life then everything is pretty concrete. It's only when you get really in depth that the interpretations are really up for debate, like about the end times in revelation. Those minor differences are what make different denominations. But most Christian denominations will agree with the major details that matter

Please, just, don't do that, that's why we had a bunch of religion wars here.
What? I didn't say God doesn't exist. I said I don't believe that God exists, and my reasoning is that there is no substantial evidence for his existence. There's also no substantial evidence against his existence, but I also don't believe in goblins that live in the core of the earth despite that there's no substantial evidence against them. I wasn't saying God doesn't exist, and I'm not saying goblins don't live in the core of the earth. I simply don't believe either to be true.

Also, the question itself asks "Why?" That's why I mentioned there's no substantial evidence.
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