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If you're
not christian or religious at all
then how do you believe in a god to pray to?


Also I don't like how some people turn prayer into the "main course" almost of dinner. Like with my aunt and uncle it's not just a quick "thank you god for this food" or whatever, they have all these "fun" extravagant prayers (to draw the kids in, no doubt). And some people get really pissy if you don't want to participate



Well that's cool and all if you think that's the best answer, but that's not exactly what the Bible says. So if a Christian is saying that, it's because he's ignorant of his own beliefs
I love how much arguing there is even between people of the same religion

Salvation is a free and eternal gift from God. It is the ultimate gift that you cannot lose if you truly have it. If one is truly a Christian, then they will persevere in their faith.

So I can do anything I want and still go to heaven since I was saved at 7-years-old right?

then how do you believe in a god to pray to?

Idk I just do. If there is a god out there listening to peoples' prayers he should hear mine too right?

So I can do anything I want and still go to heaven since I was saved at 7-years-old right?

Idk I just do. If there is a god out there listening to peoples' prayers he should hear mine too right?
So, like a Pascal's Wager kind of thing? Like, if your prayers are heard by a god, fine, but there isn't a god, it doesn't really matter.

I love how much arguing there is even between people of the same religion

I don't really I think it's sad

So I can do anything I want and still go to heaven since I was saved at 7-years-old right?
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Question: "If I am saved and all of my sins are forgiven, why not continue to sin?"

Answer: The apostle Paul answered a very similar question in Romans 6:1-2, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” The idea that a person could “trust in Jesus Christ” for salvation and then go on living just as he/she lived before, is absolutely foreign to the Bible. Believers in Christ are new creations (2 Corinthians 5:17). The Holy Spirit changes us from producing the acts of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21) to producing the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23). The Christian life is a changed life because the Christian is changed.

What differentiates Christianity from every other religion is that Christianity is based on what God has done for us through Jesus Christ—divine accomplishment. Every other world religion is based on what we must do to earn God's favor and forgiveness—human achievement. Every other religion teaches that we must do certain things and stop doing certain other things in order to earn God's love and mercy. Christianity, faith in Christ, teaches that we do certain things and stop doing certain things because of what Christ has done for us.

How could anyone, having been delivered from sin's penalty, eternity in hell, go back to living the same life that had him on the path to hell in the first place? How could anyone, having been cleansed from the defilement of sin, desire to go back to the same cesspool of depravity? How could anyone, knowing what Jesus Christ did on our behalf, go on living as if He were not important? How could anyone, realizing how much Christ suffered for our sins, continue sinning as if those sufferings were meaningless?

Romans 6:11-15 declares, “In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!”

For the truly converted, then, continuing to live sinfully is not an option. Because our conversion resulted in a completely new nature, our desire is to no longer live in sin. Yes, we still sin, but instead of wallowing in it as we once did, we now hate it and wish to be delivered from it. The idea of “taking advantage” of Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf by continuing to live sinfully is unthinkable. If a person believes himself to be a Christian and still desires to live the old, sinful life, he has reason to doubt his salvation. “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?” (2 Corinthians 13:5).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/forgiven-why-not-sin.html

So I can do anything I want and still go to heaven since I was saved at 7-years-old right?

this assuming you were old enough to understand when you were saved, although that still doesn't mean you should throw it out the window just because it's guaranteed you won't lose salvation

it's guaranteed you won't lose salvation
This is extremely debatable, even among Christians. But whether or not it's true, it's a dangerous belief to have if you want the best chances at getting to heaven. The best advice I've heard from a pastor on the subject was that whether or not you believe that once you're saved, you're always saved, you should live like you don't believe it.

this assuming you were old enough to understand when you were saved, although that still doesn't mean you should throw it out the window just because it's guaranteed you won't lose salvation

Well I understood it, but since then I've had love outside of marriage, used his name in vain daily, looked at research, stolen things, experimented with drugs and alcohol, had love with another girl, and I've tried to talk my stepmom out of going to church.

but that shouldnt matter right?

I try to remember to, but I'm going to be honest here and say its a struggle. I'm pretty forgetful, but we usually pray when me and my family are about to eat

Well I understood it, but since then I've had love outside of marriage, used his name in vain daily, looked at research, stolen things, experimented with drugs and alcohol, had love with another girl, and I've tried to talk my stepmom out of going to church.

but that shouldnt matter right?

everyone does dumb things

they should matter and you should care, but they're forgivable

also some of that isnt allowed even from a legal standpoint, straighten out
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I try to remember to, but I'm going to be honest here and say its a struggle. I'm pretty forgetful, but we usually pray when me and my family are about to eat
Basically this for me. :/

cmon god looks at research once in a while

Rubba dub dub, thanks for the grub


I'm an earthly satanist, and even then I don't "pray" or anything
No god got this food for me, my parents did, and eventually when I'm on my own, I will do the same