use of ad.fly for addons

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Greek2me:

--- Quote from: Crispy_ on January 08, 2014, 08:03:26 PM ---well, have fun with your pennies.

no point in debating it because ephi is just gonna remove spam anyway.

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I'm not talking about putting ads on stuff; I don't want to do that. I'm talking about Mr.Nobody's attitude about it.

MARBLE MAN:

--- Quote from: hodot on January 07, 2014, 09:14:28 PM ---I'm talking about marble man and bushido and those others.

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That hurt my feelings

Zealott:
people who skip videos on youtube that have ads are idiots. many high quality channels are professional youtubers. they aren't greedily trying to suck up your money, they are trying to make a living. they often put 30-50 hours a week into video production. they couldn't do that for free.

Cynical:

--- Quote from: Ephialtes on January 08, 2014, 03:19:56 AM ---Nobody should be expecting money or payment for making Blockland add-ons - it's a service to the community. Take satisfaction out of the fact people are using and enjoying your thing and then go mow some lawns.

I'll be removing ad.fly stuff if people start using it - it's a cheap way of trying to monetize someone else's userbase.

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That makes no sense. I'm not advocating using ad.fly because I don't think in our community it would be by any means profitable. But you've worked on and hosted RTB for years now, for absolutely free. That's dandy and all, but you still created third party content for a game, and that content is your work, from what I know you have RTB under a CC license as well.

So if that content, created by the user, is only downloadable after watching a 5-10 second advertisement, why should you be able to remove it? I'm not saying you can't, obviously you can, and at the end of the day this is your and Badspots choice. However, you have to look at it from a different perspective, if the community gets fed up downloading from ad.fly and just stops downloading add-ons that use it, then the issue goes away because the add-on creators will go back to the old way.

Why not implement a capitalistic mindset versus supreme rule? I know its just kind of tradition for you and Badspot to have said supreme rule, and once again at the end of the day that's completely up to you guys, but I mean this is just kinda silly.

And to rebut your last point of "monetizing someone else's userbase", you do realize that's how the entire internet works right? You guys are monetizing Steam's userbase right now, I mean its as simple as that. Why do we have to take satisfaction in not making a penny off of our work, yet you guys get to take satisfaction AND make money off of the same field of work? It doesn't seem fair to me, however that's completely in my own opinion.

Ephialtes:

--- Quote from: Cynical on January 09, 2014, 05:33:47 PM ---But you've worked on and hosted RTB for years now, for absolutely free. That's dandy and all, but you still created third party content for a game, and that content is your work, from what I know you have RTB under a CC license as well.

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You've just stated facts here and not made a point so I have nothing to say to that.

--- Quote from: Cynical on January 09, 2014, 05:33:47 PM ---You guys are monetizing Steam's userbase right now, I mean its as simple as that. Why do we have to take satisfaction in not making a penny off of our work, yet you guys get to take satisfaction AND make money off of the same field of work? It doesn't seem fair to me, however that's completely in my own opinion.

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Blockland's deal with Steam is a mutually beneficial business arrangement, meaning both parties profit and that both parties agreed to set terms. That's entirely different to trying to turn a few quick cents by throwing advertising links up on someone else's forum without permission. You're just trying to monetize someone else's site traffic and it's not ethical.

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