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Crucify Night Foxscotch?

Yes
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All i'm wondering is if NF is actually bi.

All i'm wondering is if NF is actually bi.
I'm sure he is, but why would that matter?

I'm sure he is, but why would that matter?
cause im a girl :c

also it's page 34, you know what that means....

what is rool34 anyway nerds

because they're marginalized...
That doesn't impact on the need to be proud of having a loveuality. Everyone has a loveuality (yes, I will class aloveuality as a loveuality). There's nothing to be proud of.

The general view is that loveuality is not a choice, right? Therefore it's set in stone at conception (if not birth, allowing for theories regarding the impact of hormones during pregnancy).
So it's not something you choose or was chosen for you. Natural Hair colour is something you have no choice in and your parents don't choose for you (it might be predictable, but that doesn't mean it's chosen). I wouldn't expect anyone to be proud of being blonde or brunette or ginger or black haired. I wouldn't expect them to be ashamed either, but not feeling shame doesn't necessitate the existence of pride.

Being marginalised is a result of being part of a minority. It's always going to happen to some extent. But that doesn't at all mean that you should feel more proud for belonging to that minority.

Do you understand where I'm coming from with this view?
do you think people know what gay or bi or straight means, before they're told?
No, but I think that if you're in the context of a conversation whereby you're discussing loveualities then you're very likely to recognise at least the 3 main loveualities (Hetero/Homo/Bi), and that should you have even the most meagre amount of common sense and grasp of the English language, then should someone say "aloveual" you should understand the meaning of the word based on it's prefix and knowledge of the other words.

But if you're in a conversation and you just say "He's ace", then how is someone supposed to understand that it means "aloveual", unless you've already explained it to them alongside explaining what "aloveual" is (which isn't likely since most anyone you start a conversation with on this subject already knows what it means or can work it out).
Any rational person is going to assume you're delivering a compliment to someone completely out of the blue, because that is what "ace" means in normal language. That or maybe they'd assume you're a tribal who doesn't have a complete grasp of phrases.

So in any conversation where you use it, unless you're teaching someone from the ground up, you're just going to have to waste time explaining it to them when you say it and confuse them.
And then you run the risk, particularly if referring to your own loveuality, as coming off as egotistic and self-complimenting, as I explained above and before.
why is it a problem for you?? if they want to explain it to people then what's the issue? that's not actually a complaint you can have because it doesn't affect you
What's with this? I've seen you do this a fair few times before in an argument, jumping to criticising someone for actually having a problem or opinion in the first place.

I can have my own opinion of the word. I'm not saying you can't use it. You can call yourself a loveual-teetotaller for all I care, but it doesn't mean I can't think your choice of words is stupid and egotistic.
I can have a complaint regardless of whether something affects me or not. It doesn't affect you that I have a complaint, so by your own logic, why do you have issue with me having an issue?
That view is illogical and silly. By the same standard I can't be an advocate for gay rights because it doesn't affect me as a straight person. But I don't think you'd be telling me off if that were the case.

Calm down a little bit more in arguments. Don't take it all so personally. I'm only here to enter friendly debate with people. I'm not on a personal crusade against you because we have differing opinons (especially when it's only an opinion on the use of a single word).

Wait maybe I'm late to the joke but why does everyone think Flatflyer is gay

Wait maybe I'm late to the joke but why does everyone think Flatflyer is gay
we dont think

we know

Wait maybe I'm late to the joke but why does everyone think Flatflyer is gay
He was attempting an internet relationship with Pie Crust, and there was controversy over Pie Crust's gender. They claimed to be a girl, but there were pictures and details that didn't seem to quite add up.

Also, Flatflyer is a little bit aloof and has made some gay comments before, whether as joke or not.
On paper I would say that his loveuality would be dubious. but really it's just a joke to try and wind him up.

All i'm wondering is if NF is actually bi.
pan to be specific
That doesn't impact on the need to be proud of having a loveuality. Everyone has a loveuality (yes, I will class aloveuality as a loveuality). There's nothing to be proud of.
it's not pride about your loveuality, it's pride about overcoming that marginalization
But if you're in a conversation and you just say "He's ace", then how is someone supposed to understand that it means "aloveual", unless you've already explained it to them alongside explaining what "aloveual" is (which isn't likely since most anyone you start a conversation with on this subject already knows what it means or can work it out).
this is easily corrected by them saying "what?" and you saying "aloveual"
it really is not a big deal
What's with this? I've seen you do this a fair few times before in an argument, jumping to criticising someone for actually having a problem or opinion in the first place.

I can have my own opinion of the word. I'm not saying you can't use it. You can call yourself a loveual-teetotaller for all I care, but it doesn't mean I can't think your choice of words is stupid and egotistic.
I can have a complaint regardless of whether something affects me or not. It doesn't affect you that I have a complaint, so by your own logic, why do you have issue with me having an issue?
That view is illogical and silly. By the same standard I can't be an advocate for gay rights because it doesn't affect me as a straight person. But I don't think you'd be telling me off if that were the case.
Calm down a little bit more in arguments. Don't take it all so personally. I'm only here to enter friendly debate with people. I'm not on a personal crusade against you because we have differing opinons (especially when it's only an opinion on the use of a single word).
I know I can do that a lot, but I think this case is different. because when it comes to this, there's no reason for you to have an issue with it. one of your biggest reasons is that it's harder for them to use in a conversation, but not only is it not much harder for them at all, but it has nothing to do with you. and it's not even like gay rights, or whatever, those are situations where other people are being hurt for no reason

and, besides that, even if it was also a compliment for them, who cares? what's wrong with someone liking themselves?
Wait maybe I'm late to the joke but why does everyone think Flatflyer is gay
bc he's gay

There's literally no reason for this argument, lol.

guys i'm bi lets start a war

guys i'm bi lets start a war
forget YOU YOU'RE OPPRESSING ME

honestly i only think night fox is dissing sir dooble cause dooble's straight...

man, night fox thats tribal :y

I see Aloveuality as a loveuality and an attachment to an already existing loveuality. For some they don't care for love, but they still like men or women.

Humans are complicated creatures that like to complicate things such as creating new definitions for preexisting words, or twisting and bending them to create new meanings which makes things more difficult.

Also is foxscotch Night Fox? I thought his original account got unbanned.