Pledge of Allegiance

[Mikoyan]

If they took the "to the government for which it stands" and the "under god" part out I think it would be just great.

[Ad Bot]

[Night Fox]

I don't know why it's even something to say. like, does anyone seriously believe that people are less likely to commit treason or something if they say it? same thing for swearing on the bible before court. pointless

[XR-7]

I don't know why it's even something to say. like, does anyone seriously believe that people are less likely to commit treason or something if they say it? same thing for swearing on the bible before court. pointless

It's just an optional way to show patriotism.

[Frankie²]

i believe it was conned by a flags salesman
if so, he's a very successful businessman

[Alternat¡ve]

all the edgy kids don't stand up in my class, and when they do, they do the national socialist salute when the teacher isnt looking.

[Headcrab Zombie]

they do the national socialist salute when the teacher isnt looking.

Fun fact: This is originally how the pledge was done

[Electrk.]

Fun fact: This is originally how the pledge was done

Fun fact: The Roman salute was pretty similar to the national socialist one. wrong

[Pie Crust]

The pledge of allegiance is the national anthom for the US? If so, my school makes us say the national anthom only when there's a ceremony of something or a memorial of someone.

[Electrk.]

No, the pledge of allegiance is something different.

[Clone v.117]

all the edgy kids don't stand up in my class, and when they do, they do the national socialist salute when the teacher isnt looking.

Putting the edge in pledge since 1999.

[Pie Crust]

No, the pledge of allegiance is something different.

I see. Do you have to say this every day in the morning?

[Electrk.]

I see. Do you have to say this every day in the morning?

We don't have to. It's just optional.
It's really only in elementary and middle schools. In high school we didn't do it and obviously in college we don't do it.

[sir dooble]

Fun fact: The Roman salute was pretty similar to the national socialist one.

That's not actually true, if you're referring to Ancient Rome.

There's a single painting from 1784 depicting Roman soldiers performing that salute, but that was entirely artistic license.
There's not a single piece of ancient literature or statuary or imagery that depicts Romans performing that salute.

The only ancient sources that do depict or describe such a salute/stance only express a similar gesture that was used for wildly different reasons.


It's just because the Italian Fascist movement adopted the salute, basing it on that 1784 painting and other modern depictions of the salute, and proclaiming it Roman.
And then it was adopted by Fascists worldwide, particularly those of national socialist Germany.

[Oasis]

i believe it was conned by a flags salesman
if so, he's a very successful businessman

It was created by Francis Bellamy, a Baptist minister and socialist that wrote it for a magazine that wanted to promote flag sales to public schools.

[Headcrab Zombie]

wrong

No
Maybe not identical, but very similar. Similar enough for it to be changed to avoid being similar.