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Super Smash Bros. For Wii U & 3DS: MEWTWO CODES GOIN OUT
ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Niff on September 22, 2014, 04:39:12 PM ---No, they sucked ASS. I never used them, nobody I know used them, I haven't seen any tournament highlights with people who used them.
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are you joking?
Fly Amanita, 10th on melee power rankings, uses ICs EXCLUSIVELY
And I didn't forget about Wobbles, ChuDat, or Nintendude, who are all top players and recognized names.
You can't even say they sucked in Brawl. They were the 2nd best character on the tier list because they had grab infinites.
FFS, please don't attempt to make generalizations about the competitive community when you clearly don't participate
Niff:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on September 22, 2014, 05:38:58 PM ---are you joking?
Fly Amanita, 10th on melee power rankings, uses ICs EXCLUSIVELY
And I didn't forget about Wobbles, ChuDat, or Nintendude, who are all top players and recognized names.
You can't even say they sucked in Brawl. They were the 2nd best character on the tier list because they had grab infinites.
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who gives a stuff about teirs?????
its all about how cool you look BB))))
and besides, I said that I haven't seen anybody use Ice Climbers, never have I said that nobody uses them.
Zanaran2:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on September 22, 2014, 05:38:58 PM ---are you joking?
Fly Amanita, 10th on melee power rankings, uses ICs EXCLUSIVELY
And I didn't forget about Wobbles, ChuDat, or Nintendude, who are all top players and recognized names.
You can't even say they sucked in Brawl. They were the 2nd best character on the tier list because they had grab infinites.
FFS, please don't attempt to make generalizations about the competitive community when you clearly don't participate
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjectivity
Just because they're the best according to the tier list does not make them more fun to play/make the player better. Someone could be amazing at Jigglypuff or other characters at the bottom of the list, or suck at top-tier characters.
Also, let's look closer at Niff's quote, shall we?
--- Quote from: Niff on September 22, 2014, 04:39:12 PM ---No, they sucked ASS. I never used them, nobody I know used them, I haven't seen any tournament highlights with people who used them.
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Bolded the parts you clearly ignored. I havent =/= Nobody has.
ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Niff on September 22, 2014, 05:41:28 PM ---who gives a stuff about teirs?????
its all about how cool you look BB))))
and besides, I said that I haven't seen anybody use Ice Climbers, never have I said that nobody uses them.
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What? If they're 2nd tier, they're bound to be used by most top players, (if they're not banned, which I believe they were almost never banned in the Brawl meta) furthering my point that you have no idea what you're talking about.
You said they suck ass because people you knew never used them. That statement would have been fine (they suck if you don't put srs time into them, which casual players wouldn't) but you went on to include tournament play, which is untrue.
--- Quote from: Yosher on September 22, 2014, 05:27:47 PM ---ice climbers didn't really have any unique features other than that they were 2 people, but it was more of an annoyance than a thing you really enjoyed
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The two people dynamic is actually super interesting if you desync them. http://gfycat.com/HighTartCoelacanth
Basically you can get them to combo off of one another, sort of like Rosalina in SSB4. It can lead to some cool stuff.
--- Quote from: Zanaran2 on September 22, 2014, 05:44:01 PM ---http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjectivity
Just because they're the best according to the tier list does not make them more fun to play/make the player better. Someone could be amazing at Jigglypuff or other characters at the bottom of the list, or suck at top-tier characters.
Also, let's look closer at Niff's quote, shall we?
Bolded the parts you clearly ignored. I havent =/= Nobody has.
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He said:
--- Quote ---No, they sucked ASS.
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That is a DEFINITIVE statement. I was pointing out how he was using his limited experiences to make a definitive statement, one that applies to all cases, not "in his experience".
Anyway, we shouldn't spam this thread with arguments.
Flatflyer:
I'm just gonna say I played jigglypuff and dedede a lot in SSBB and did pretty well with them both despite them being low tier on the list.