Author Topic: Hackers accused of private investigating Phil Fish, speculations of himself doing it  (Read 5599 times)

I'd be interested in hearing these
This appears to be one of the recent ones. If you browse through the subreddit, you'll probably find more. Avoid the drama, though.

It would be amazing if this turned out to be true though

Like honestly all of this Zoe Quinn bullstuff is blown ridiculously out of proportion (except her thing with crashing a feminist game jam that was pretty bad)

Many of the people who complain about this don't even seem to care about journalistic integrity.

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I think the InternetAristocrat screed, unintentionally, exemplifies what's really going on here. None of these people give two stuffs about journalistic integrity (if they did, they'd be rallying against endemic advertising & publisher swag with equal amounts of rage). The subtext is that a lot of people feel threatened by the changing demographics of gaming and gaming journalism.
Do I think Zoe Quinn is a stuffty person? Based on the ex-boyfriend's examples it sure seems that way. But, yeah, the reaction seems disproportionate.

Okay this guy has serious mental problems, send him to an institution

Like honestly all of this Zoe Quinn bullstuff is blown ridiculously out of proportion (except her thing with crashing a feminist game jam that was pretty bad)

Many of the people who complain about this don't even seem to care about journalistic integrity.


I agree. I had said before and will say again, she's basically just a glorified whore. Literally.

Well apparently polytron uses CloudFlare only for caching.

And they say the files were stolen from their Dropbox and Phil Fish's corporate twitter account was hacked. Twitter and tumblr both have a two-step auth I believe.

You people are really quick to believe "big lies".
I don't know about Tumblr and Twitter. I can easily say, however, that if their polytron server was hacked, it wouldn't have all of Phil's personal info and the base Fez files on it. I can also say that it's obvious that any real hacker would have posted the dox anywhere but the site itself to keep it from being wiped.

can we put him in the same room as that swastika-carving teen?
that'll teach him to not be a dumbass.

So basically it's "you don't care you're just loveist" gotcha.

I agree. I had said before and will say again, she's basically just a glorified whore. Literally.
Great. Awesome. Tons of whores in the world. Literally nothing significant has to do with Zoe Quinn. She made some stuffty games, forgeted some guys, and some people decided to overblow the whole thing. The articles written by the guy she banged didn't even mention her games in full besides an acknowledgement.

And then you have these people like the person below:
Okay this guy has serious mental problems, send him to an institution
Who will literally believe any editorialized headline without thinking critically or taking the time to research the subject any further than looking at biased 4chan screencaps.

Jesus Christ I hated Fez with a burning passion but you people are screaming for a witch hunt.

I don't know about Tumblr and Twitter. I can easily say, however, that if their polytron server was hacked, it wouldn't have all of Phil's personal info and the base Fez files on it. I can also say that it's obvious that any real hacker would have posted the dox anywhere but the site itself to keep it from being wiped.

It was a polytron company Dropbox, so it may well have held all of the 1.5 GBs on it. There's also a suspicion that Phil Fish may have been compromised much, much earlier than the data release.

So basically it's "you don't care you're just loveist" gotcha.
I'm not saying anybody is loveist it's just that many of these complaints about "gaming journalism" is actually just part of a much broader critique about SJWs and gaming and trying to paint it as an issue of "gaming journalism" is wrong and dishonest.
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I think the issue is that a lot of females who are entering gaming are bringing up a lot of issues that the guys/girls who were playing games thus far hadn't thought/cared about.

It's not necessarily loveism/threatened by changing demographics, but more that gamers don't want to care and are worried all their games will turn into Coming Out Simulator. They're wrong, of course, but I definitely feel like a lot of the issues being brought up are non-issues, or are the results of other problems that people are sticking their agendas to.

Just my 2c.

I think the issue is that a lot of females who are entering gaming are bringing up a lot of issues that the guys/girls who were playing games thus far hadn't thought/cared about.

It's not necessarily loveism/threatened by changing demographics, but more that gamers don't want to care and are worried all their games will turn into Coming Out Simulator. They're wrong, of course, but I definitely feel like a lot of the issues being brought up are non-issues, or are the results of other problems that people are sticking their agendas to.

Just my 2c.
I'm not really that quick to judge but the fact that many people vehemently argue against "SJWs in gaming" on their irrational fears that all games will turn into walking simulators or pixel art games ignore the fact that you can just choose what games to play and what games you don't want to play. If you don't trust gaming journalism play a demo or watch a Let's Play. And there tons of game devs will be there to fill your particular niche. Nobody is going to stop making your favorite type of game just because another kind is currently popular. They just seem kinda... stupid to me.

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You are just one of many thousands of people who remain ignorant of about half the entire situation. Clearly you didn't read anything official on the topic.
The massive and repeated double standards regarding feminism is what is at heart. If you aren't aware of how feminism is loving up games, well, that's on you. But that is where the vitriol is coming from. The reaction from the feminist camp to this whole situation is also where the vitriol comes from.
Double standards and permanent/professional victimization, even when proof of it all being a lie is out in the open.
A feminist is STILL the victim in a situation where her lies are proven to be false.
And then you have people who believe this. So yeah, a part of it is fear about changing demographics.

please get arrested phil flibs no one likes you.

"a feminist is still a victim in a situation where her lies are proven to be false"

you could substitute "feminist" with anything and that's still the dumbest statement eve

Topic title is starting to give me hemorrhoids. People start coming in and think that it's confirmed.

Topic title is actually a really good example of bad journalism.

"a feminist is still a victim in a situation where her lies are proven to be false"

you could substitute "feminist" with anything and that's still the dumbest statement eve
yeah pretty much.