Author Topic: are these computer parts good?  (Read 3075 times)

you don't need a hexa/octa-core CPU and if you actually did need one then you sure as hell wouldn't get an FX-series CPU

Is it bad my laptop has an i7 running 8 cores, it's a Nvidia gt 525m (Which is outdated but still a beast card)

And what would you actually use an octa-core cpu for?

Is it bad my laptop has an i7 running 8 cores, it's a Nvidia gt 525m (Which is outdated but still a beast card)

And what would you actually use an octa-core cpu for?

Laptops are laptops so it's not bad because that's what they throw in to justify the price. Octa-cores are used for multi-threaded workloads and things that I don't understand. Basically you don't need more than 4 cores unless you're a content-creator, by which I mean someone who does a lot more than convert the odd video for uploading to Youtube

Save up a bit and get these; http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Tokthree/saved/Jp9wrH

I'm not too good at the low-end these days so if anyone wants to tweak this then go ahead
thanks but no thanks. the parts i've picked are cheaper than this and still work together as far as I know.
title says 'are these computer parts good' so i just want approval whether or not they're good together from someone who's been experienced in actually building custom computers.

Laptops are laptops so it's not bad because that's what they throw in to justify the price. Octa-cores are used for multi-threaded workloads and things that I don't understand. Basically you don't need more than 4 cores unless you're a content-creator, by which I mean someone who does a lot more than convert the odd video for uploading to Youtube
also imo this doesn't matter. price x performance are a big thing. that vishera six core 3.57GHz processor was a good deal for $109. the eight core was also a good deal but they're socket type goes to a bunch of motherboards that don't support the PCI 3.0
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 08:50:50 AM by Ceist »

the parts i've picked are cheaper than this
Your cpu: $109.99
His CPU: $109.99

Your motherboard: $126
His motherboard: $74.98

?????




What CPU do you have right now tho
Also I'd get a mobo with a pcie x16 3.0 slot instead of a 2.0 slot, for future upgrading
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 12:12:20 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

the gpu is worse than my nvidia geforce 8600 gt


so i just want approval whether or not they're good together from someone who's been experienced in actually building custom computers.

If that's what you want then they're not, you're wasting money and gimping the performance you get in the end, the parts I've chosen for you will give you a balanced and enjoyable experience.

also imo this doesn't matter. price x performance are a big thing. that vishera six core 3.57GHz processor was a good deal for $109. the eight core was also a good deal but they're socket type goes to a bunch of motherboards that don't support the PCI 3.0

What part of "It doesn't matter how many cores you have if you'll never use them" don't you understand? It's not a question of how much you use your computer for because if the things you're doing CANNOT use those extra cores then you are wasting money when you could've gotten something with a higher clock-speed and fewer cores for the exact same price.

If you still refuse to save up a bit more then fine, I can't do anything about it. But know that you're gimping your own experience and you'll quite quickly be feeling the need to upgrade again

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

Ranks every piece of hardware ever made on performance by comparison to all others in a huge litany of tests. Use this when comparing to see how much better certain products are VS others and then compare the prices on your own to pick the ones you like most.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

Ranks every piece of hardware ever made on performance by comparison to all others in a huge litany of tests. Use this when comparing to see how much better certain products are VS others and then compare the prices on your own to pick the ones you like most.
Except that those charts aren't accurate... They said something about a bunch of tests, but I'm pretty sure it's just many iterations of passmark. Right off of the bat, a 295x2 is way better than a single 780ti, there's a reason it costs twice as much. Other people have said the same as I have, it's just not accurate in terms of general performance, considering you should never accept a single benchmark result as an all-encompassing result.

Except that those charts aren't accurate... They said something about a bunch of tests, but I'm pretty sure it's just many iterations of passmark. Right off of the bat, a 295x2 is way better than a single 780ti, there's a reason it costs twice as much. Inefficient production costs, lots of companies bloat their prices for seemingly no reason as well, don't forget labor costs and material deficiencies; the Xbox costs the same amount as the PS4, yet the PS4's hardware is just in general terms superior. Other people have said the same as I have, it's just not accurate in terms of general performance, considering you should never accept a single benchmark result as an all-encompassing result. I neglected to mention that as I assumed it was obvious, but I guess if you felt compelled to point it out, then its all the more reason to point it out again.

Pay no attention to naysayers, Passmark/Benchmark is plenty accurate and will provide you with fairly accurate comparisons between products. If the comparison numbers are really close together, then that's the point in which you should go in and do your own comprehensive brown townysis, this is a service that is best used to narrow down your product search.

Pay no attention to naysayers, Passmark/Benchmark is plenty accurate and will provide you with fairly accurate comparisons between products. If the comparison numbers are really close together, then that's the point in which you should go in and do your own comprehensive brown townysis, this is a service that is best used to narrow down your product search.
Except no, because passmark is not very accurate. For the sake of utmost transparency, I'll state first that we're only talking about gaming. If you buy a gaming video card for the purpose of not gaming, you are doing it wrong. Passmark is a synthetic benchmark, which means it stresses different configurations of hardware architectures in a way that it sees fit, then assigns each piece of hardware an arbitrary score. Believe it or not, the best way to determine which gaming video card is best for video gaming, is by benchmarking with video games and not synthetic benchmarks.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-review-benchmark-performance,3799-4.html
Here are a bunch of video game benchmarks between the 295X2 and TWO 780 ti's. If you look through, you'll see that the pair of 780ti's narrowly beats the 295X2 at 2560x1440 a little over half of the time, and then loses to the 295X2 in almost all of the 3840x2160p by anywhere from a narrow margin to a 10fps difference.

That's TWO 780ti's which trades blows with a single 295X2. In case you have delusions that a single 780ti can do the same amount of work as two, here's a separate article with more benchmark numbers for the 780ti on its own:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-ti-review-benchmarks,3663-3.html

If the comparison numbers are really close together, then that's the point in which you should go in and do your own comprehensive brown townysis, this is a service that is best used to narrow down your product search.
Well that's the loving problem, the passmark charts show a single 780ti vastly beating a 295X2. That's not close. Anyone who reads those charts and doesn't know better will think that a single 780ti is vastly better than a 295X2 in raw performance, on account that it wins by over a thousand points

In summary:
1) you are wrong
2) passmark does not paint an accurate picture of gaming video card benchmarks

Your cpu: $109.99
His CPU: $109.99
Your motherboard: $126
His motherboard: $74.98
?????
What CPU do you have right now tho
Also I'd get a mobo with a pcie x16 3.0 slot instead of a 2.0 slot, for future upgrading
the second set of parts i picked are cheaper than his. but i've re-read the specs and noticed his GPU is newer than mine despite being more expensive.
also i have an AMD A6 QuadCore 2.3GHz. but it has an FT3 socket.

What part of "It doesn't matter how many cores you have if you'll never use them" don't you understand? It's not a question of how much you use your computer for because if the things you're doing CANNOT use those extra cores then you are wasting money when you could've gotten something with a higher clock-speed and fewer cores for the exact same price.
fun fact: i host servers with friends. it could be incredibly useful.

I'd also like to make a point that i'm not denying your parts. It's also super helpful if I get more experience in picking out parts on my own for a future build.
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while we're on the topic of computers...
r8 x/8
7/10 but i dont know about that cpu,
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/749CCJ
heres a different one, a bit better than the x4. other than that i can say its good for a budget build.