Why I'm critical of game design, Part 1

[McJob]

In the second message in the first screenshot, he says "we just lost our main coder."

My bad :P Probably should have asked, but I was set on figuring out other things first and foremost.

[Ad Bot]

[ForgetLavender]

"since i am always a writer"

Yeah this guy's writing style really makes me think he is top grade.

[Ladios]

willing to do stupid things (like spend their live savings on a failing project which is supposed to be released for free)

Quite an assumatory value-statement there...

[McJob]

Quite an assumatory value-statement there...

Did you read the entire thing? He literally says that he's willing to use up all his life-savings and screw himself over to make this game, which is to be released for free.

[sir dooble]

I completely get where you're coming from, and understand your motivations for carrying on your conversation with him, and I understand how terrible an idea it would be to work with him, especially given his poor management skills and complete lack of financing, but I still think ultimately you came off as a bit of a richard.

The whole "reveal" of your lawyer charade and whatnot just gave the impression that you were basically pleasuring your ego over having led him on and being more successful/skilled than him.
I'll assume you weren't going for that, but reading it myself that's how I took it, and I'd definitely have done so if I was the other person in this conversation.

[Rainzx¹]

"since i am always a writer"

Yeah this guy's writing style really makes me think he is top grade.

I don't think English is this guys first language. Or at least he is still new to it.
He mentions in the chat that he can't write it very well.

[Ladios]

He literally says that he's willing to use up all his life-savings and screw himself over to make this game, which is to be released for free.

Some people have passion for what they do.

[AtlasBlue]

This is why I decided game development really isn't for me. You've got people with ideas, but they can't actually EXECUTE said ideas themselves.

[McJob]

Some people have passion for what they do.

To the point of saying they'd loving themselves over massively for some stupid flash game? Nuh-uh.

The whole "reveal" of your lawyer charade and whatnot just gave the impression that you were basically pleasuring your ego over having led him on and being more successful/skilled than him.
I'll assume you weren't going for that, but reading it myself that's how I took it, and I'd definitely have done so if I was the other person in this conversation.

I was purposely being a cunt there to entertain the friend who asked me to talk to him. I should have been calmer and more professional, but I decided to go for the entertainment value.

[Ladios]

To the point of saying they'd loving themselves over massively for some stupid flash game? Nuh-uh.

Others may not have the same priorities as you. Some artists live only to produce art and don't quite care about the consequence. Often times such people are deemed crazy until after they have passed and people are allowed to respect the artwork for what it is instead of as a commentary on relative social values.

[McJob]

Others may not have the same priorities as you. Some artists live only to produce art and don't quite care about the consequence. Often times such people are deemed crazy until after they have passed and people are allowed to respect the artwork for what it is instead of as a commentary on relative social values.

This guy isn't an artist. The only reason he wants to do this is because he's upset that more people aren't boxing, which of course he cares about because he runs a gym. Essentially, he wants more people to become boxers so more people join his gym and he gets more profit.

The only problem with his plan is that it's not going to work. His game will not convince people to become real boxers. How many people play Street Fighter and go on to deck people in the hood?

You seem to have this opinion that everybody who goes on this "selfless pilgrimage" is intelligent and is doing things "for the art" and will eventually be respected. You are incorrect. There's a wide difference between those who found success posthumous and this guy. He doesn't have what it takes. He couldn't even keep his calm in a simple Skype discussion and answer my questions.

[Yosher]

man i have nothing against you but do you always have to get so overdramatic about game design

it's all you post about at this point

[McJob]

man i have nothing against you but do you always have to get so overdramatic about game design

I get really passionate about it. Too much, but it's the one thing I'm actually decent at teaching to other people.

it's all you post about at this point

I know it's not literal, but just in case there is anybody out there who actually thinks this is true...

Photo from 2009 when we went to QLD.

Fun fact, the blonde kid is my brother, and the girl is my sister.

Even more fun fact: He's not adopted.

The closest I'd want to get to driving a truck is a ute.

This thing is a loving monster.

Currently roleplaying as either HK-47 or the Enclave Communications Officer.

Two great ones here:

The Enclave Communications Officer freaks the new nightguard from FNAF out.

[Ladios]

He couldn't even keep his calm in a simple Skype discussion and answer my questions.

Especially when it seemed the intention of your skype conversation was to demean him.

[King of the Bill]

Others may not have the same priorities as you. Some artists live only to produce art and don't quite care about the consequence. Often times such people are deemed crazy until after they have passed and people are allowed to respect the artwork for what it is instead of as a commentary on relative social values.

I'm just going to note that this is historically accurate for many of our famous artists of the past.
Not all of them were exactly pure of motive either.