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Dannu:
Philosophy, that's what this is. It does not require an x or an y, it requires linking info known to you, sharing it with others and reaching the most probable outcome of events and when talking about something so beyond comprehension to our minds, it is impossible to say that there are none of y. We have no comparison, we have no measuring scale, we could be super-minds to some species, inferior intellects to others. To simplify things so large, the human mind only takes into consideration the area he knows and shuns what is farther, that is the basics of tribal instinct. As species have evolved into more intelligent beings, they have gotten more curious about what is beyond what they consider their source and is why we aren't all located in Africa huddled over a camp fire. Some day we will be ready to step up to that next level, but we won't be a species that is like the one we are today.
Foxscotch:

--- Quote from: Dannu on April 09, 2015, 10:59:53 AM ---Try to comprehend how large the universe is.
Now 100x what your most wild guess was, that's a bit closer.
There is absolutely no way we're the only intelligible life form.

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I know it's big. do you know how long it's existed? I don't doubt that there have been or will be intelligent races elsewhere, but what do you think is the likelihood that there's been another one, in this galaxy, in the last 200,000 years? whether its at their own hands, or more likely because of some massive extinction, I think it would take quite a lot of tries before finally reaching intelligence. and each try takes at least millions of years
just talking about our galaxy. I actually do think there are enough galaxies for there to be some more right now, but as I'm about to say, that doesn't really matter
--- Quote from: Dannu on April 09, 2015, 11:06:29 AM ---You can't carry off the hundreds of billions of galaxies there are and say that even if we are the only intelligible life form in our galaxy, we are a big deal.

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sure you can. integalactic travel is difficult enough that every other galaxy is irrelevant. the large magellanic cloud (which I chose because I started reading Ringworld a few days ago) is 163,000 light years away. that's a long time, especially for a race of people that only live around 100 years
the closest "galaxy" is the canis major whatever, and that's still 25,000 light years away, over twice as long as we've been keeping track of history
and the closest galaxy comparable to our own, andromeda, is a staggering two and a half million light years away

more importantly, what reason would any species have to leave their galaxy in the first place?
whether they don't because they don't have the technology, or because they don't have a reason, if nobody ever leaves their galaxy, then the only thing that will matter to one intelligent race is what's within its galaxy

in any case, we are pretty important. we're literally all we know of, and who's to say another race would be more important?
MoltenKitten:

--- Quote from: Machaty on April 09, 2015, 11:22:42 AM ---I can't even
No human beings don't reproduce to fertilize the ground you dolt, we have a survival instinct for a reason. Humans, like every other animal on the planet, exsist to reproduce and propagate their own species. That's the goal of all life, even bacteria. It's fine if that's your own personaly philosphy, but dont claim that it has any kind of scientific relevance.

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Humans reproduce so that their species can continue fertilizing the ground just like every other animal

And the reason why we have survival instincts is so we can produce offspring before our demise
plad101:
Death is the meaning of life
Foxscotch:

--- Quote from: MoltenKitten on April 09, 2015, 11:45:59 AM ---Humans reproduce so that their species can continue fertilizing the ground just like every other animal

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I can't wrap my head around this. why do you think we live to fertilize the ground? what led you to that conclusion?
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