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| Sheepocalypse:
--- Quote from: Donro98 on April 16, 2015, 08:46:26 PM --- Sure, but not every crime is a home invasion where people murder/rape the inhabitants. --- End quote --- I'm just giving a hypothetical scenario. Lots of people in America have their home invaded each day (no stuff?), but I wouldn't take the chance. |
| Satan From Wreck-It-Ralph:
--- Quote from: Donro98 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:48 PM --- 1. I don't know for sure, as you didn't provide the names, what those guns are, though they appear to be, if I am correct, variations of one weapon. 2. That is barely relevant as my knowledge of two different variations of a gun that I have had no experience with and have to research does not necessarily invalidate my point. 3. I don't think one would need either. They are not practical for self-defense, and ultimately you would get the same enjoyment (except if you are a collector, and there should be alternatives such as weapons that don't shoot) if you shot it in a regulated environment. One would argue "Sure, I don't need either, but I want them." To which I would reply that potentially deadly things generally should not be a "want" issue. --- End quote --- i'm pretty sure harm has pulled that card before multiple times they're the same gun in pretty much everything but aesthetics |
| sir dooble:
--- Quote from: Sheepocalypse on April 16, 2015, 08:36:24 PM ---I haven't had a situation when someone broke into my house either, but you could never know. Maybe, your country will go all mad, hypothetically speaking, and start killing their citizens like Syria. Or, maybe your country is attacked and invaded, and your military isn't strong enough, and middle eastern men are shooting up the streets. --- End quote --- It's unbelievably unlikely that my country will descend into revolution, or tyranny, or that there will be a civil war. In fact, we've only had 1 civil war in our history, and once it ended and the changes were made, we spent 11 years before we decided we liked it more how it was before. Or, in the off chance that my country is somehow invaded, and both our standing army, our territorial army of reserves, and the army of our allies (including America, France, Canada, Australia, India and a lot more) are defeated, then I feel that me and my fellow untrained citizens having a gun is going to do very little besides get us killed. At that point I think I might as well accept that I've been conquered. |
| Donro98:
--- Quote from: Satan From Wreck-It-Ralph on April 16, 2015, 08:56:59 PM ---i'm pretty sure harm has pulled that card before multiple times they're the same gun in pretty much everything but aesthetics --- End quote --- Upon searching google, one is a variation (i think) that allows a bayonet and flash suppressor, though I could be mistaken. |
| Zloff:
In America, our forefathers ultimately created the second amendment with the intent to arm the citizens in order to protect us from our own government. It's kind of hard to do such a thing if the government tries to limit us to bolt-actions and guns that do not fire an "armor-piercing" round(basically every rifle round ever) forget the batfe and their unconstitutional actions --- Quote from: Donro98 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:48 PM ---1. I don't know for sure, as you didn't provide the names, what those guns are, though they appear to be, if I am correct, variations of one weapon. 2. That is barely relevant as my knowledge of two different variations of a gun that I have had no experience with and have to research does not necessarily invalidate my point. 3. I don't think one would need either. They are not practical for self-defense, and ultimately you would get the same enjoyment (except if you are a collector, and there should be alternatives such as weapons that don't shoot) if you shot it in a regulated environment. One would argue "Sure, I don't need either, but I want them." To which I would reply that potentially deadly things generally should not be a "want" issue. --- End quote --- 1.-2. I promise they're the same gun 3. Mini-14 > any typical shotgun or bolt-action rifle for defense; comparatively it is shorter, has lighter recoil(commonly chambered in the light-kicking .223), detachable mag that makes loading the rifle from storage quick and easy in an emergency, semiautomatic function means you're not screwed if you miss the first shot-- especially in the case of multiple assailants --- Quote from: Donro98 on April 16, 2015, 09:05:10 PM --- Upon searching google, one is a variation (i think) that allows a bayonet and flash suppressor, though I could be mistaken. --- End quote --- The wooden one has a bayonet lug, yes, but they both have the exact same, legal detachable flash hiders already installed |
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