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Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®
Otis Da HousKat:
Issues of government tyranny and standing militias aside, I am pro-gun and firmly in the, "When seconds count police are minutes away," camp.
I feel like most people's dads don't start hanging out with a bunch of illiterate tweakers who come busting into your house for a quick score because they know he carries a lot of cash on hand, but if they did trust me you'd be glad to have a shotgun on hand.
Zloff:
--- Quote from: Donro98 on April 16, 2015, 10:09:22 PM --- So in a self-defense situation, wouldn't most engagements be within 20 yards?
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--- Quote from: Zloff on April 16, 2015, 10:07:26 PM ---think of the reasons why spec-ops units use carbines over pistols for close-quarters and urban combat
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much easier to manipulate and ensured stopping power along with reliability
I've used both carbines and pistols in routines and I assure you I'd take the rifle every time. Pistols, as fun as they are to shoot, are designated "sidearms" for a reason. Not to mention handguns have steeper learning curve and are in some cases even easier to disarm than carbines
Donro98:
--- Quote from: Zloff on April 16, 2015, 10:28:46 PM ---much easier to manipulate and ensured stopping power along with reliability
I've used both carbines and pistols in routines and I assure you I'd take the rifle every time. Pistols, as fun as they are to shoot, are designated "sidearms" for a reason. Not to mention handguns have steeper learning curve and are in some cases even easier to disarm than carbines
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Then I would raise the question of why a civilian would NEED a carbine instead of a pistol? Sure, they have a steeper learning curve and are easier to disarm in some cases, but a civilian should know their weapon inside and out anyways, and if someone is close enough to disarm you you are probably dead regardless.
Do civilians need a more malleable weapon? Do civilians need more ensured stopping power since the goal should be incapacitation, not necessarily death?
KickFlow:
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 16, 2015, 10:04:28 PM ---gas stoves, unlike guns, are not designed and created to kill people
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News to me, didn't know guns were designed to kill people
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 16, 2015, 10:04:28 PM ---at the very least these things are illegal, while, as far as I know, there's absolutely nothing illegal about just leaving a loaded gun on your kitchen counter
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Wait did you just say kids cars and alcohol are illegal?
sir dooble:
--- Quote from: KickFlow on April 16, 2015, 10:46:50 PM ---Wait did you just say kids cars and alcohol are illegal?
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No, he said drinking irresponsibly, failing to take responsible care of your children, and driving irresponsibly are illegal.