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Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®
Foxscotch:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on April 17, 2015, 11:40:56 AM ---Because some people fail to have training before buying a gun is the reason accidents happen, not because guns are inherently dangerous.
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then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off
guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous
plad101:
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 11:47:43 AM ---then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off
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I don't think he ever said those who know how to use a gun magicly make them not dangerous, guns will always be dangerous but when used properly and by a trained individual they are less dangerous.
IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 11:47:43 AM ---then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off
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"Inherently dangerous" by definition means that by nature, the thing is dangerous. A gun isn't dangerous by nature. like I said, a gun that is laid on a table without any interference isn't going to kill you.
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 11:47:43 AM ---guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous
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No matter what gun it is, you can still kill somebody with it. Guns always have the potential to harm or kill. With that said, a firearm in the hands of somebody competent isn't inherently dangerous.
People with training who go to firing ranges to go target shooting don't run the risk of injury or death.
Rally:
--- Quote from: XR-7 on April 17, 2015, 10:49:47 AM ---Um knives are used for cutting things? You know, meat, fishing line, plastic packaging, assortments of other things.
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--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 11:05:23 AM ---yeah...
cutting through brush, whittling, cutting meat, skinning fish
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I was certain I made reference to knives that were specifically created for combat? Nobody buys a ka-bar to skin fish.
Knives that are used for plastic packaging wont be great for lethal force. Yes you can cause bodily harm with them, y'know, as you can with a butterknife. Nobody buys a zip blade to kill people. Most non-combat knives are also built with a single purpose in mind.
--- Quote from: XR-7 on April 17, 2015, 10:49:47 AM ---I don't think firefighters use them for killing people or chopping wood, so
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Chopping wood doors? It's a lever with a blade on it. There's not much you can use it for.
But y'know as I said, a Fire-axe is built with a single situation in mind. Nobody is using tomahawks or labrys for garden work.
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 11:47:43 AM ---then almost nothing is inherently dangerous. there isn't even any such thing as dangerous. if you know how to deal with a cougar, you'll be fine. so I guess they're not inherently dangerous, it's just that some people don't know how to fight one off
guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous
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You serious? A cougar is a carnivore that eats, sleeps and breathes. You cannot compare this to a loving gun.
Harm94:
@Nightfox: The also make less lethal ammo, ammo that was designed not to kill people.
Not everyone keeps a gun for home defense or to rise up against the state. There are many people who own them just for the sake of shooting inanimate objects such paper targets, clay, and old rusty cars. Basically recreational shooting. Some like to hunt. Others use them for multiple purposes. They even having sporting use. There is the biathlon where you ski with a rifle and you have to shoot targets, this sport is shown during the Winter Olympics. There is the marksmenship shooting, this also shown during the summer Olympics. There is speed shooting where you have to quickly hit a target or many targets quickly and accurately as possible.
--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 11:47:43 AM ---guns are dangerous. if you have to say "as long as you know how to use it there's no problem" then that means whatever you're talking about is dangerous
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Blades are still dangerous if you aren't using them right. Do you know why a dull knife is more dangerous than a sharp one?
Bladed weapons are still in use in the military as well
http://image.macho.co/img/2013/11/Gerber-Tactical-Tomahawk-1.jpg
If a bladed weapon can be repurposed to something else, then so can a firearm.