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Foxscotch:

--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on April 17, 2015, 11:56:04 AM ---People with training who go to firing ranges to go target shooting don't run the risk of injury or death.

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yes they do, because they have a lethal weapon in their hand. there are precautions and safety switches and whatever else, but as long as there is a bullet in the weapon it is dangerous
cops, who are definitely trained to use them, still kill people on accident with their guns
--- Quote from: Harm94 on April 17, 2015, 12:01:09 PM ---The also make less lethal ammo, ammo that was designed not to kill people.

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nobody is talking about less-lethal weapons
Rally:

--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 12:05:14 PM ---yes they do, because they have a lethal weapon in their hand. there are precautions and safety switches and whatever else, but as long as there is a bullet in the weapon it is dangerous

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Yeah, no stuff, guns are dangerous because they can injure people. You can injure people with a rock too.
We get it though, a gun is more dangerous than a rock. But why is it 300 million other people's problem that you're a dumbass who can't handle dangerous equipment properly?

If you walk into a automobile factory and start playing around with heavy machinery without the first clue what you're doing, you're probably going to lose an arm. Is that the machine's fault or your fault?
IkeTheGeneric:

--- Quote from: Foxscotch on April 17, 2015, 12:05:14 PM ---yes they do, because they have a lethal weapon in their hand.

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Besides the extremely unlikely event of a discharge (Which, most of the time is caused by firearms that have been improperly tampered, cleaned or made), you do not have to worry about getting shot at a firing range assuming that everyone there has proper safety training and responsibility.

Safety precautions include not pointing the gun at anyone, making several checks to make sure the gun isn't still loaded before handling it and making sure the gun isn't rusted, cracked or broken anywhere.

I will restate my point again since you seem to not be getting it; a firearm held by somebody with proper training and discretion isn't a harm to anyone by nature. There is no reason to outlaw firearms because of improper care and handling of them. There are incredibly better ways of handling the situation than to destroy an entire industry.
Harm94:
That is less lethal ammo than can be put into a weapon that fires lethal ammo.
Accidents: They happen. There was a SWAT team, highly trained dudes right? Well after a raid one of them tripped over with accidently discharged his shotgun which killed a boy. Even the military forgets up and kills civilians all the time. I can think of several recent incidents where a missile or artillery shell slammed into some guys house.

Even knifes can be dangerous for the same reasons you stated for firearms. I could be trying to cut an orange with dull knife, I apply too much pressure and slips and cuts my finger.
Foxscotch:

--- Quote from: Harm94 on April 17, 2015, 12:15:38 PM ---Accidents: They happen. There was a SWAT team, highly trained dudes right? Well after a raid one of them tripped over with accidently discharged his shotgun which killed a boy. Even the military forgets up and kills civilians all the time. I can think of several recent incidents where a missile or artillery shell slammed into some guys house.

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yeah. so guns are dangerous, even in trained hands
an unnecessary risk
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