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Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®
blockguy™:
i like the learning aspect of school, it's just teachers and state testing that makes it a load of forget
Nonnel:
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carolcat:
if high school wasn't mandatory, then my classes would be so much more enjoyable. the majority of kids at my school don't even want to be there in the first place and refuse to cooperate, which holds everyone else back.
people say that school keeps kids off the street so they don't start fights n stuff, but it happens inside and outside of school regardless.
Harm94:
--- Quote from: Ladios on April 20, 2015, 09:12:14 PM ---No, the public school system is too flawed to mandate its use.
If they actually had universally decent teachers and catered to advanced students sufficiently, I would consider otherwise. But in my own experience public school slowed me down so much, and I will not put my own children through that when the day comes. (This isn't to say I would hide them away from society like people seem to assume I mean when I say this, I just notice that most people are stupid and being around stupid people while developing your views of the world can be very damaging.)
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The public school is flawed. The current was designed to prepare people for the world where working an industrial job was viable. However that world doesn't exist anymore. All they do in school now is teach kids how to test and bubble in a b c d. So instead of being taught, the schools are just trying to pass as many kids as possible regardless if they learned anything or not. I went though elementary school, junior high, and high school writing papers that were covered and marked up in red, yet there was a giant A or B on top.
I didn't learn how to write a proper essay until I got college. Now when I write something and turn it in it actually feels like I accomplished something that I can be proud off. Math on the other hand has been a struggle for me because it seems like the goal is cram as much into one semester as much as possible. We are expected to cram, even in college we expected to cram everything possible into a 3 month period. I think math is taught best a slower pace with at least one or two homework assignments to reinforce what I learn. Most math courses lack the reinforcement aspect and its basically one chapter, one assignment each day followed by one test that has information taught from 4 weeks ago all cramped into one test. The only way you can study for that is if you get in enough practice. Either you know how to solve the problem or you don't.
The other problem is that there are teachers who don't want to teach and instead use homework to teach instead of reinforce what was learned. I've teachers and professors who told us to reach a chapter from the book, answer questions, and come back to take a quiz on the material while. This pisses me off in college because I am paying for this class and I have to sit here and not be taught, instead I am paying for a class to learn something that I could have learned to on my own free time.
Even the college system needs some sort of reform in my opinion. You are supposed to go to college learn to specialize in something right? Instead I have to waste my time paying for classes like "The history of art", "intro to world music", stuff I will for sure never use in my life, yet I am expected to take these classes so that I can transfer and become a more well rounded person when the well rounding part should have been done in K-12. This combined with the professors who make you learn through homework, the whole thing is a scam just so you can get a piece of paper that allows you work in a certain field.
Even then, once you have that piece of paper and you go to that job interview they say something like "Oh cool you have a degree, but do you have job experience in this field? No, okay sorry. We aren't interested in you." and then you probably ask "Well how do I get job experience in this field "Well you need a degree to get this job". Because of that I learned that if you know a guy and have connections, those obstacles disappear and you got the job because you knew a guy who could put you there, not because you worked hard to get there. Because you were able to bullstuff your way in.
So yes education K-12 should be mandatory. The option to drop out should only be available to high school and students who are legal adults. However we need to reform the upper and lower educational system first.
Georges:
--- Quote from: Jairo on April 20, 2015, 03:36:51 PM ---p much every homeschooled kid I've met is socially autistic
stay in (public) school, kids
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yeah no
I've been homeschooled essentially all my life, and both my numerous homeschooled friends and I all have active social lives both with other homeschooled people and public and private schooled people.
Please don't believe the stereotype that homeschoolers have no life, because for a lot of them, it's not true.