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| otto-san:
a large amount of the problem isn't directly someone being paid more or less than someone of a diff gender, it's more so diff genders being less-considered for higher-paying jobs (aka ""the glass ceiling"") which is something that's obv difficult to prove on an individual basis, and so also something that can mostly only be changed through legitimate culture shifts that change the underlying viewpoints fuelling the inequality |
| #Ravencroft:
--- Quote from: KickFlow on April 23, 2015, 06:55:16 PM ---Why not if it's no harm like you claim? --- End quote --- I didn't say there was no harm, I was just saying you were wrong about price increases directly correlating to the increase in minimum wage. There are multiple problems that do come with raising minimum wage though, such as unskilled teenagers having to compete with over-qualified adults for jobs, employers being less willing to hire extra workers, resulting in a loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs, and employees being less motivated to move on in their career. |
| Bisjac:
if i was working some job for 4 years. started at 10 bucks, got a supervisor job and am now making a sweet 15 bucks an hour. then the next day, some handicap kid just out of highschool got my old job as his first job ever. hes making 15 bucks. why all the effort. i had more experience and skills and worked to have more. now i am just the same as him. at the bottom, but i have more responsibilities. there is that cycle again of the poorest who dont try. its not because they are all just lazy forgets. its because the economy is broken, and hard work means nothing anymore. you are only as rich or poor as the next person. when they raise min wage, they actually widen the wealth gap. pushing middle class downward, while the poor actually didnt move at all. |
| The Magical Dunes:
--- Quote from: #Ravencroft on April 23, 2015, 05:21:06 PM ---Have either of you ever taken an economics class? This is one of the most common assumptions people make about minimum wage and why it shouldn't be raised. Raising minimum wage in no way relates to raise in prices, inflation, what ever the forget you want to call it. --- End quote --- Not that i disagree with your point about the weak causality, but i dont think it's a terrible assumption to think that a raise in the price of inputs may lead to some increase in the final price that consumers see. |
| #Ravencroft:
--- Quote from: The Magical Dunes on April 23, 2015, 07:35:35 PM ---Not that i disagree with your point about the weak causality, but i dont think it's a terrible assumption to think that a raise in the price of inputs may lead to some increase in the final price that consumers see. --- End quote --- It's not a terrible assumption, it's just a common misconception. |
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