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| Perry:
--- Quote from: Alternat¡ve on January 05, 2017, 04:26:55 PM ---They are still responsible for their actions. If I'm in a warzone and some jihad is about to shoot me, I'm not going to sit there and try to talk to him about how its his misguided ideology making him shoot me. I'm going to shoot first. --- End quote --- This is a topic about the death penalty, not self defense or warzones. Obviously if you're about to be shot by someone you have the right to preserve your life where required. I'm talking about an institution that allows an unarmed human being to be executed for any reason. --- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on January 05, 2017, 04:27:15 PM ---It's not about 'what's right' anymore. Hemorrhaging federal funds on convicts who cannot be rehabilitated simply because it's not "right" to put them down despite them being a complete threat to society as whole is simply handicapped. Why is that not right, yet it's totally okay to force them to live in such an awful environment like the prisons they're incarcerated in for life? --- End quote --- It's barbaric to slap a price tag on human life at all. Incarceration does cost money, but depriving someone of life is wrong on every level. Even if it does save you a million dollars a year to execute one prisoner, it's just immoral. Taking a life intentionally is never justified |
| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Nonnel on January 05, 2017, 04:35:29 PM ---humans are intelligent beings. dogs are not. the ability to think is why we hold humans as more important than dogs. --- End quote --- Yet some humans commit horrible acts, which puts them in the same category as a rabid dog in my eyes --- Quote from: Perry on January 05, 2017, 04:37:52 PM ---but depriving someone of life is wrong on every level. --- End quote --- What if they're like A serial killer |
| Perry:
--- Quote from: Red Spy on January 05, 2017, 04:50:36 PM ---Yet some humans commit horrible acts, which puts them in the same category as a rabid dog in my eyes --- End quote --- Yet the death penalty is murder, through and through. Death has no bias or discrimination. If you murder the nicest person on earth, it's still just as much murder as if you were to kill osama bin laden You see people who commit atrocities as rabid dogs, but if you were to be the executioner, you'd be just as much of a rabid dog as them. --- Quote from: Red Spy on January 05, 2017, 04:50:36 PM ---What if they're like A serial killer --- End quote --- How does killing them solve a problem? They were born the same way you were born, they are human, they have emotions, share love, hate, all of the typical signs of humanity. What makes anyone qualified to say they should die? How can you distinguish the executioner from the executed if both commit murder? Morals are normally based on opinion, but the inalienable rights of humans are not up for debate. Ending someone's life is murder, regardless of what that person did. |
| IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Perry on January 05, 2017, 04:37:52 PM ---It's barbaric to slap a price tag on human life at all. Incarceration does cost money, but depriving someone of life is wrong on every level. Even if it does save you a million dollars a year to execute one prisoner, it's just immoral. Taking a life intentionally is never justified --- End quote --- I'm still not seeing a viable argument against the death penalty beyond "It's wrong though!!!" I don't give a forget about morality. Morality is an outdated and irrelevant old-world measurement. |
| NotBomberguy:
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