Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®

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Perry:

--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on January 05, 2017, 04:56:27 PM ---I'm still not seeing a viable argument against the death penalty beyond "It's wrong though!!!" I don't give a forget about morality. Morality is an outdated and irrelevant old-world measurement.

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But then what qualifies someone to say who deserves to die? The issue is that every person has a different opinion on what warrants life and death, and leaving it up to a jury of 12 people and a judge is not enough.

Either way, if you don't give a forget about morals and are willing to kill a criminal, you are no different than the criminal in question.

Red Spy:

--- Quote from: Perry on January 05, 2017, 04:55:00 PM ---How does killing them solve a problem?

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The same way throwing away garbage solves a problem

--- Quote from: Perry on January 05, 2017, 04:55:00 PM ---They were born the same way you were born, they are human, they have emotions, share love, hate, all of the typical signs of humanity. What makes anyone qualified to say they should die? How can you distinguish the executioner from the executed if both commit murder?

Morals are normally based on opinion, but the inalienable rights of humans are not up for debate. Ending someone's life is murder, regardless of what that person did.

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"Sure, they murdered a bunch of people, BUT THEY'RE A HUMAN TOO"

Alternat¡ve:

--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on January 05, 2017, 04:56:27 PM ---I don't give a forget about morality. Morality is an outdated and irrelevant old-world measurement.

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while you mortal fools squabbled over morality.. i studied the blade..

Perry:

--- Quote from: Red Spy on January 05, 2017, 04:59:52 PM ---"Sure, they murdered a bunch of people, BUT THEY'RE A HUMAN TOO"

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Think of it like this. I give you a gun, and put a person in front of you. The person murdered someone else for an unspecified reason. I leave it to you to shoot them.

What makes them worthy of death, and then, if you are to shoot them, what makes you worthy of life? What would make you qualified to judge them in the first place? What if you have some bias against them because they are, say, a different race, gender or person?

Humans cannot be the judge of another human's life. It's wrong, and if you really have no morals then ideologically you are no different from the criminal on death row.

Insert Name Here²:

--- Quote from: Perry on January 05, 2017, 04:55:00 PM ---How does killing them solve a problem?

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It prevents them from killing or severely harming any more people while incarcerated, and it also removes the risk of them escaping to go out and kill again.

By the way, when it comes to criminals, simple "muh morals, they're people toooo!!!!!!!" never solves stuff. Strutting around with that attitude just enables their behavior because if everyone had that attitude, no action would be brought against them. Sorry path, but your "morals" don't work here. Go try somewhere else.

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