Author Topic: Monogamy - Your Honest Thoughts?  (Read 2454 times)

But does that mean only one person is entitled to multiple other partners, therefore asserting who has power in the relationship?
No. That could be the way it goes, but it's not a requirement (unless it was some religious rule or something, I guess).
And how many multiples of partners does it take before you're simply sleeping around with people with little-to-no relationship value for most of those partners?
This is ridiculous...
The points of having one partner are:

A) More time together meaning more time to raise kids, instead of having many kids from all different partners to deal with
B) A symbol that you're willing to give up your loveual/romantic freedom for the sake of one person
C) To allow for more genetic diversity, since allowing one person to share their genes with many partners reduces the amount of variation within the next generation (not a problem in small scale, but if we all became polygamists then it might be an issue)
A: First of all, being married doesn't mean you have to have kids. Second, if you do have kids, it wouldn't hurt anything for them to be raised by only one of their parents half the time. Third, why are you even assuming that spending time with one partner means being away from the other(s)?
B: A meaningless symbol. Just because you want that doesn't mean it's an objective (or "logical") advantage.
C: Also ridiculous. If we all became gay, the world would end. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with homoloveuality.

A: First of all, being married doesn't mean you have to have kids. Second, if you do have kids, it wouldn't hurt anything for them to be raised by only one of their parents half the time. Third, why are you even assuming that spending time with one partner means being away from the other(s)?

I'm quite certain that having two parents not only makes caring for a child easier, but the child can also be raised more effectively physically, emotionally, and socially. Not sure how you'll want to argue that, but I'm not going to unless you strike first.

B: A meaningless symbol. Just because you want that doesn't mean it's an objective (or "logical") advantage.

Meaningless? What gives you the right to make that subjective judgement? That's not an aggressive question, but I really feel you should answer it.

C: Also ridiculous. If we all became gay, the world would end. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with homoloveuality.

He's talking about reproduction, not homoloveuality. And the world would not end, humans would just go extinct.

Monogamy is natural and so is polygamy. (Or atleast I think polygamy is natural, not sure on that one.)

I'm quite certain that having two parents not only makes caring for a child easier, but the child can also be raised more effectively physically, emotionally, and socially. Not sure how you'll want to argue that, but I'm not going to unless you strike first.
Of course it makes it easier, but it isn't going to make a big difference. Parents in regular families already spend a lot of time away from their kids. It's not any worse than one parent working bad hours.
Meaningless? What gives you the right to make that subjective judgement? That's not an aggressive question, but I really feel you should answer it.
It is meaningless to polygamists, or they wouldn't be polygamists...
He's talking about reproduction, not homoloveuality.
It's an brown townogy. Reproduction is irrelevant in the first place, and the only way you can make it relevant is with an absolutely absurd slippery slope argument.

Of course it makes it easier, but it isn't going to make a big difference. Parents in regular families already spend a lot of time away from their kids. It's not any worse than one parent working bad hours.

I guess I can see what you're getting at, but I still think that measures should be made to an extent to have two people raising a child(ren)

It is meaningless to polygamists, or they wouldn't be polygamists...

Then you probably shouldn't have made that statement. The point of a marriage is a legal pact between partners. They don't consider whether polygamists are going to care about their marriage or not.

It's an brown townogy.

Ok. It wasn't very obvious.

C: Also ridiculous. If we all became gay, the world would end. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with homoloveuality.

I'd just like to add that there are many homoloveual couples who have biological kids, in addition to closeted "heteroloveual" partners, so if everyone turned homo we'd still be making babies (for the sake of survival if not out of desire).

I see no issue with open polygamy.
If any of it isn't consented to by any party, though, then forget that.

Marriage should have no political relevance whatsoever.


I think monogamy is the most stable.  In polygamous relationships, there is usually some sort of preference toward an individual pair, or a group within the larger group.  I think the only ideal polygamous culture that existed was Sparta, but much of the rest of the culture was forgeted up so it's hard to say that trying to reflect Spartan culture is ideal.  Time has tested that monogamy has prevailed as the preferred relationship custom in the civilized world.

He's talking about reproduction, not homoloveuality. And the world would not end, humans would just go extinct.
I'm going off on a different tangent, but considering how humanity plays a vital role on this planet, it would not take long for other things to die out.

I'm going off on a different tangent, but considering how humanity plays a vital role on this planet, it would not take long for other things to die out.
Life on Earth did a fine job of existing for hundreds of millions of years before humans.


Monogamy is probably the stupidest thing humans could've done when we still were hunters and gatherers.

Nowadays, it really doesn't matter.

No. That could be the way it goes, but it's not a requirement (unless it was some religious rule or something, I guess).
In any relationship, there will always be somebody with more power over somebody else (Boss v. Employee, Student v. Teacher) with the exception being a love relationship, since there's an expectation that both partners care about each other equally. However, when there's multiple partners, somebody is going to become the centre of attention depending on who has the most partners, and there may also be favouritism involved.

This is ridiculous...
How so? If somebody is entering a polygamous relationship and keeps finding new partners, how long does it take before you are spending barely any time with each individual?

A: First of all, being married doesn't mean you have to have kids.
No, but there is both an expectation on a natural/biological and a social level that you will have kids with a partner. The reason love feels good and that the body is designed the way it is, is that so we can continue to produce more offspring.

Second, if you do have kids, it wouldn't hurt anything for them to be raised by only one of their parents half the time.
You've clearly never lived in that kind of family structure, or in a structure where one of the parents is totally missing. I know a lot of people where one parent was practically never at home (similar to my Dad) and they're usually pretty pissed off about it.  It's no a good environment to grow up in.

Third, why are you even assuming that spending time with one partner means being away from the other(s)?
There's only so much time in a day, and somebody has to earn money to support the family. Furthermore, if you're in a polygamous relationship with kids, it's likely there's kids with the other partners and so you'd have to split time evenly. Kids are not very good with the concept of "sharing" and when they're young are far more dependant.

B: A meaningless symbol. Just because you want that doesn't mean it's an objective (or "logical") advantage.
The whole point of marriage is to form a pact with the one person on the planet you truly love more than anybody else. There's no pointing having marriage if you're going to just sleep with anybody you please.

C: Also ridiculous. If we all became gay, the world would end. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with homoloveuality.
But it does mean that we need to have a substantial more people who are heteroloveual to allow for continued birth.

Furthermore, THEY'RE DIFFERENT ISSUES. Polygamy means there's a smaller gene pool, and thus a risk of more genetic defects. It doesn't mean people have to stop reproducing.

its a cultural thing
if the society says yes then its yes
if no well then deal with it, fight back if you want, but itll only change when the culture changes