Freedom of Speech infringement at my school?

[·::Kishgal::·]

But like, how are they attention whoring?

There is a large distinction in attitude between a teenager who is having "loveual identity issues" and someone who is gay, or bi, or whathaveyou.

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[Foxscotch]

Oh, good, so it's not just a local thing or something.

it could pretty easily be a local thing. I spent most of my school life in alabama. idk where alt is from, but you and ike aren't in the south. to be 100% honest I've only seen like three openly gay people in person, anyway
and the locker room thing is certainly because of the family values. and the other thing is probably still related to this ugly state
it still happens. I'm also pretty confident that anyone saying it happens more with gay people than straight people is exaggerating. unless they live somewhere where homoloveuality is actually more common than heteroloveuality, I guess

[Col. Derontchi]

LGBT people in general?

Yes. They make complete asses of themselves by demanding special attention and treatment, then anyone who doesn't realize their apparent special royalty status is either a "bigot" or a "family man" or anything of the like.

[General]

I thought studies showed that at most one in ten people are gay?

[Glass Joe]

Yes. They make complete asses of themselves by demanding special attention and treatment, then anyone who doesn't realize their apparent special royalty status is either a "bigot" or a "family man" or anything of the like.

[citation needed]

[IkeTheGeneric]

it could pretty easily be a local thing. I spent most of my school life in alabama. idk where alt is from, but you and ike aren't in the south. to be 100% honest I've only seen like three openly gay people in person, anyway
and the locker room thing is certainly because of the family values. and the other thing is probably still related to this ugly state
it still happens. I'm also pretty confident that anyone saying it happens more with gay people than straight people is exaggerating. unless they live somewhere where homoloveuality is actually more common than heteroloveuality, I guess

I've been deeper south than alabama and loveual harassment in general is looked down upon pretty much everywhere

[General]

No citation is needed. All you need is some personal experience with people like that and you will understand 100%

[Ipquarx]

It very well may be a political opinion. A political belief IS a personal belief. There is no evidence that they actually harassed them for being "x", they were probably just doing it to be "funny". Even then, it is not the school's place to change those. The school is supposed to be totally neutral.

Political belief =/= personal belief
You don't see any politicians arguing over whether all gay people should die, do you? Do you see them publicly bragging about harassing LGBT people on their facebooks?
Political beliefs are things like "Illegal immigrants shouldn't get healthcare benefits" (Just as an example) not "Biloveual people are the spawn of satan and need to be exterminated."

Plus, if schools were required to be neutral, we'd be teaching both creationism AND evolution in our schools, and telling kids to pick which one they like better. They're clearly not intended to be 100% neutral.

[·::Kishgal::·]

it could pretty easily be a local thing. I spent most of my school life in alabama. idk where alt is from, but you and ike aren't in the south. to be 100% honest I've only seen like three openly gay people in person, anyway
and the locker room thing is certainly because of the family values. and the other thing is probably still related to this ugly state

It's not local so much as regional then. That's pretty much just the way it is.

it still happens. I'm also pretty confident that anyone saying it happens more with gay people than straight people is exaggerating. unless they live somewhere where homoloveuality is actually more common than heteroloveuality, I guess

Surely, but it's nowhere near as proliferate as you seem to think it is, and it's definitely not viewed as acceptable by anyone but a cunt and his friends.

[citation needed]

Attending high school.

[tnatsissA]

Basically how I feel. I don't have a problem with someone being a homoloveual, it's the fact that they constantly toss their loveual preference in everyone elses' face that makes it so disgusting.

Maybe we should start putting up posters and form groups in school to promote heteroloveual acceptance too. It only makes it fair, right?

Guys, the LGBT clubs are to offer protection when needed and to help bring at least some measure of awareness of LGBT likeness and so forth. They are by no means "pushing" they're they're loveuality upon you. They're not being flamboyant pricks about it lol. And plus, there is not need for heteroloveual acceptance because it's already a majority and accepted widely; homoloveuality, etc. isn't. "Maybe we should start putting up posters and form groups in school to promote heteroloveual acceptance too. It only makes it fair, right?" <people need to stop using this an argument.
Not everyone has a safe place they can strive in y'know, and it's not like people don't get harassed constantly for loveual orientation, etc. on school ground.

[Col. Derontchi]

[citation needed]

Well, I suppose it's really in personal experience. There's no way to really document it, as it's taken so lightly and therefore goes undocumented. It's sort of like a "feed them to the wolves" type thing if they disagree with ANY part of ANYTHING they do, whether or not its related to their actual loveuality. All this being said, I have no problem with gays or lesbians, but maybe even the fact that I have to say that to avoid horrendous flaming is proof of the point I'm trying to get across.

[Alternat¡ve]

idk where alt is from, but you and ike aren't in the south

Western Nevada

[Kansas]

I feel in my area it's not necessary considering most of my friends are gay

[ultimamax]

Sorry - didn't mean to word that so overtly. What I mean is that opression is inevitable, but we should still respect minorities, if they have below 20% standing. What I mean by this is not that we keep being rude to the 30%, or anyone that has a population above 20% - but we should repect people for who they are regardless of what they do.

Well it sounded like you were arguing that oppression doesn't exist

There is a large distinction in attitude between a teenager who is having "loveual identity issues" and someone who is gay, or bi, or whathaveyou.

I'm asking about specific situations in which LGBT teens attention whore

I'd urge everyone to not make assumptions about LGBT people using the experiences you've had yourself
Outwardly LGBT people are uncommon to meet. You may have met dozens of LGBT people who never even mentioned it or weren't out.

Yes. They make complete asses of themselves by demanding special attention and treatment, then anyone who doesn't realize their apparent special royalty status is either a "bigot" or a "family man" or anything of the like.

I'm pretty sure you've only read about gay people on the internet or something

Guys, the LGBT clubs are to offer protection when needed and to help bring at least some measure of awareness of LGBT likeness and so forth. They are by no means "pushing" they're they're loveuality upon you. They're not being flamboyant pricks about it lol. And plus, there is not need for heteroloveual acceptance because it's already a majority and accepted widely; homoloveuality, etc. isn't. "Maybe we should start putting up posters and form groups in school to promote heteroloveual acceptance too. It only makes it fair, right?" <people need to stop using this an argument.
Not everyone has a safe place they can strive in y'know, and it's not like people don't get harassed constantly for loveual orientation, etc. on school ground.

Exactly. The day someone gets kicked out of their house for being straight, or commits Self Delete because their friends and family have alienated them because they're straight, or someone is beaten and hurt because they're straight, or legally fired or evicted or denied a loan or expelled because they're straight, there will be a need for heteroloveual pride and acceptance.

Well, I suppose it's really in personal experience. There's no way to really document it, as it's taken so lightly and therefore goes undocumented. It's sort of like a "feed them to the wolves" type thing if they disagree with ANY part of ANYTHING they do, whether or not its related to their actual loveuality. All this being said, I have no problem with gays or lesbians, but maybe even the fact that I have to say that to avoid horrendous flaming is proof of the point I'm trying to get across.

"The wise man knows he knows nothing, the fool thinks he knows all."
Consider expanding your worldview before you make generalizations about 350 million people, (5% of the world population) or even 15 million people (LGBT people in the US)

All the LGBT people I know (the many) are chill people

[Foxscotch]

They make complete asses of themselves by demanding special attention and treatment

can you just tell everyone what this means. instead of saying that someone else has explained it (when they haven't)
what do they demand exactly? what is "special treatment"?

Western Nevada

nevada is definitely not the south. so it was kinda unnecessary to clarify, but whatever

Surely, but it's nowhere near as proliferate as you seem to think it is, and it's definitely not viewed as acceptable by anyone but a cunt and his friends.

yeah, not "normal," that was the wrong word. the majority of people don't do that. but the people who do it are, idk, the real-life equivalent of the "popular kids" in television shows. and nobody says anything about it. so it's not normal, but it's... "okay"