Smooth (IDs 7353, 7289): Server crashing, giving out BLHack, cheating

[Akio]

Sorry for the triple post, but also remember that Dannu hasn't posted here and completely ignored my messages since he was caught in a lie.

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[Dragonoid.Slayer]

Oh boy, I just have the dirt on everybody, don't I?

Simply because I suggest something, means I have the intention of using it? Its for a trollpack, and I figure I would put an idea out there. I've used the command for(%i=0;%i<1000;%i++)commandToServer('warp'); to get to the farlands, and simply thought it would work with loading dups. There is a reason why I didn't know the exact command for it. I've also uninstalled the trollpack, for the same reason you posted, Akio:
I don't want to ruin my reputation. Crazy got some dirt on me because I took a screenshot of it. Now, please tell me. Why would I want to flaunt having Dos stuff, if I had the intention of using it? That doesn't seem very smart, does it. But regardless, I thought that metabot thing (Not abusable) was pretty cool, so we were talking about getting that Fixed / Added onto.

[Ipquarx]

Oh please dragonoid, you're funny.
You see the command was for(%i=0;%i<1000;%i++)commandToServer('loaddup, spam'); not WARP.
Clearly, you're telling him that you should add some form of spammer to the pack. That is unacceptable.

[Dragonoid.Slayer]

Oh please dragonoid, you're funny.
You see the command was for(%i=0;%i<1000;%i++)commandToServer('loaddup, spam'); not WARP.
Clearly, you're telling him that you should add some form of spammer to the pack. That is unacceptable.

I've used the command for(%i=0;%i<1000;%i++)commandToServer('warp'); to get to the farlands, and simply thought it would work with loading dups. There is a reason why I didn't know the exact command for it.

[Ipquarx]

Why loading dups, hm? Does spamming loading dups cause... lets see... mass brick spam? massive amounts of lag?

I wonder what it could POSSIBLY DO.

[Dragonoid.Slayer]

Oh please dragonoid, you're funny.
You see the command was for(%i=0;%i<1000;%i++)commandToServer('loaddup, spam'); not WARP.
Clearly, you're telling him that you should add some form of spammer to the pack. That is unacceptable.

Sorry for double post, but. I haven't done anything with the pack in a bad way. I've literally only used it for Random Avatar / Ghost Pet / MetaBot / Spam Clicking.
I did test all of the other stuff on my server doe, and didn't use it any other time, in any other place.

[Dragonoid.Slayer]

Why loading dups, hm? Does spamming loading dups cause... lets see... mass brick spam? massive amounts of lag?

I wonder what it could POSSIBLY DO.

Do you understand what "simply thought it would work with loading dups."
I had a hunch that it would cause lag, but I haven't used it. o.o

[Ipquarx]

Do you understand what "simply thought it would work with loading dups."
I had a hunch that it would cause lag, but I haven't used it. o.o

You had a "hunch" that it would cause lag. So what do you do? Instead of say... responsibly reporting it to the creator of the duplorcator, what do you do?
You give it to someone who has repeatedly crashed and DoS'd servers, been distributing copies of BLHack and distributing a tool that anyone can use to crash servers.

You call that alright?!

[Dragonoid.Slayer]

You had a "hunch" that it would cause lag. So what do you do? Instead of say... responsibly reporting it to the creator of the duplorcator, what do you do?
You give it to someone who has repeatedly crashed and DoS'd servers, been distributing copies of BLHack and distributing a tool that anyone can use to crash servers.

You call that alright?!

I have actually been telling server hosts to make Dup save / load admin only. Ask Conan, Viso, Julian, lbp, and 8.

[Ipquarx]

I have actually been telling server hosts to make Dup save / load admin only. Ask Conan, Viso, Julian, lbp, and 8.

So instead of EVERY server getting forgeted over equally, just the servers you don't want to get crashed will be safe. Congrats, you've somehow managed to make things even worse than they already are by selectively allowing servers to be crashed.

[Dragonoid.Slayer]

So instead of EVERY server getting forgeted over equally, just the servers you don't want to get crashed will be safe. Congrats, you've somehow managed to make things even worse than they already are by selectively allowing servers to be crashed.

That's like telling every server to get IP maskers. The people that do have Dos ability, aren't going to kill every server. It is the hosts choice to make Dup Admin only or not. There is always going to be some exploit that can break a server, let it be events or bricks or dos. Every server is vulnerable of "getting forgeted over equally" nomatter if duplicator is admin or not. In any case, If somebody goes to the extent of doing dup spam, they will go to the extent to try different ways to hurt the server. in the end, making dup admin only will result in
1. Players on the server cannot save their builds
2. Nothing.
3. having to admin players to let them use dup, which is a larger risk
4. The extremely slim chance of saving their server. Which in any situation, they can look at server console and cause more damage to the player, than they did to the server.

[Ipquarx]

That's like telling every server to get IP maskers. The people that do have Dos ability, aren't going to kill every server.

First off, no, it isn't like that. I have no idea where you even came up with the comparison.
The people who have the ability to DoS a server will do so to literally any server they desire. This is basically completely random and unless you're friends with a massive troll you're at risk of getting your server attacked.

It is the hosts choice to make Dup Admin only or not.

Congratulations for stating the obvious. The average joe doesn't know whether or not to make it admin only. There is no manual of "How to keep your server safe."

here is always going to be some exploit that can break a server, let it be events or bricks or dos. Every server is vulnerable of "getting forgeted over equally" nomatter if duplicator is admin or not.

There's a lot wrong with this too. You're trying to justify giving malicious code to a likely malicious person by saying "There's something else out there anyway." Yeah, maybe there IS something else out there, something that literally nobody but 1 person knows about. Is that bad? Yes. Does that justify giving a malicious exploit to someone? Hell loving no, by giving it to him you've raised the probability more servers will be attacked and as far as I'm concerned, you're the one responsible.

If somebody goes to the extent of doing dup spam, they will go to the extent to try different ways to hurt the server.
-A completely pointless list-

You're right! But you see, that makes no difference. You're still responsible for any server attacks that happen as a result of it.

[Ipquarx]

Noedit: You still haven't addressed the issue of you giving a malicious piece of code to a person who, for all we know, has malicious intent. You've made literally no effort to apologize or repent.

[Dragonoid.Slayer]

1. First off, no, it isn't like that. I have no idea where you even came up with the comparison.
The people who have the ability to DoS a server will do so to literally any server they desire. This is basically completely random and unless you're friends with a massive troll you're at risk of getting your server attacked.

2. Congratulations for stating the obvious. The average joe doesn't know whether or not to make it admin only. There is no manual of "How to keep your server safe."

3. There's a lot wrong with this too. You're trying to justify giving malicious code to a likely malicious person by saying "There's something else out there anyway." Yeah, maybe there IS something else out there, something that literally nobody but 1 person knows about. Is that bad? Yes. Does that justify giving a malicious exploit to someone? Hell loving no, by giving it to him you've raised the probability more servers will be attacked and as far as I'm concerned, you're the one responsible.

4. You're right! But you see, that makes no difference. You're still responsible for any server attacks that happen as a result of it.

1. I never really got involved first hand into Dosing or crashing or anything. I don't really know what I was talking about there, so. I'm stupid x1

2. Good point. Really brings up the idea of making a guide full of tips and stuff to make your server less likely to be hurt by mods n stuff. I'm stupid x2

3. You say "likely" malicious person, when this person is quite obviously malicious. There is no way to justify it, as this thread is literally made for this person. No excuse. I'm stupid x3.

4. This might be the only one i'm not 100% stupid. How would I be responsible? I'm not the first person to find this exploit, right...? o.o

[Dragonoid.Slayer]

So I get it, I forgeted up. Although it might take a long time, but I would like to forget this all. it was unintelligible of me to give that command thing to Smooth, the reason this thread was created. I understand that my reputation in your eyes will forever be tainted, but I don't want my reputation to be tainted in everybody's eyes. Yes, this is somewhat of me "begging" for you to forgive me, but I didn't want to call it. This is the only big forgetup iv'e done on blockland, and it was a pretty big one. I ask that you forgive me. (Specifically Ipquarx and Akio)