10 year-old raped by stepfather, Paraguay congress rules out abortion

[Biostorm]

i wouldn't mind being raped

well it's not rape if you enjoy it

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[Maxxi]

-i was being dumb for a bit sry-

[Electrk.]

"yes, shove a knife in my ten year old's vagina so you can cut off a fetus that will probably have 3/4's of its brain missing due to lack of development"
pitchfork me if you want here but that actually might be for the best

I don't think you know how abortion works

[XR-7]

"yes, shove a knife in my ten year old's vagina so you can cut off a fetus that will probably have 3/4's of its brain missing due to lack of development"
pitchfork me if you want here but that actually might be for the best

What

[Frequency]

well it's not rape if you enjoy it

i'd post your avatar as a reaction but that seems to be becoming too common

[Nomel]

your head dosnt know what trauma is. that is learned, and its different for everyone.
she will grow up in life getting the pity treatment, and forever feeling broken and forgeted up, because that is the treatment she will always receive.

and its only because of others feeling bad for her. they make themselves feel better by treating her differently, actually having a worse effect on her mentally.

you are handicapped.

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[Bisjac]

you know the morning after pill is technically an abortion.
and the meds you can take weeks after are as well.

thats how MOST all abortions are really done.
the silly religious folk would want you to think there are girls all over the country just getting smiling fetuses yanked out. and thats unnecessary and not true.

[Machaty]

    Alright, if you believe that being told something was bad can permanently forget you up but actually experiencing something bad is harmless, then it would be incredibly easy to prove. Go out and experience something tramatic. You guys, being so aware and intelligent as you are, shouldn't be effected because you know something is only harmful when someone else tells you it is. Armed with that knowledge, all you'd have to do is not believe them when they tell you you've been through something tramatic, and boom you'll have no adverse psychological effects. Seriously. Go to the seediest, most crime ridden place you can think of, get raped, beaten, and robbed, and then tell me if your little theory holds up. But I'm SURE that it will.

     You know what, let's use my great uncle as an example. He was in the Vietnam war. When he got back he was declared insane. It couldn't have been the awful atrocities he witnessed in war that drove him insane, right? Nope. It was people saying to him: "Gee what you saw was awful I'm sure you are really beat up about that!" I understand that rape and going through a horrific war are not the same thing, but they are both psychologically damaging things.

tl:dr sympathy doesn't cause emotional development problems, tramatic events do. I'm really loving surprised I have to explain a concept so basic.

[Bisjac]

   Alright, if you believe that being told something was bad can permanently forget you up but actually experiencing something bad is harmless, then it would be incredibly easy to prove. Go out and experience something tramatic. You guys, being so aware and intelligent as you are, shouldn't be effected because you know something is only harmful when someone else tells you it is. Armed with that knowledge, all you'd have to do is not believe them when they tell you you've been through something tramatic, and boom you'll have no adverse psychological effects. Seriously. Go to the seediest, most crime ridden place you can think of, get raped, beaten, and robbed, and then tell me if your little theory holds up. But I'm SURE that it will.

     You know what, let's use my great uncle as an example. He was in the Vietnam war. When he got back he was declared insane. It couldn't have been the awful atrocities he witnessed in war that drove him insane, right? Nope. It was people saying to him: "Gee what you saw was awful I'm sure you are really beat up about that!" I understand that rape and going through a horrific war are not the same thing, but they are both psychologically damaging things.

tl:dr sympathy doesn't cause emotional development problems, tramatic events do. I'm really loving surprised I have to explain a concept so basic.

you spent way to many words describing basic mind over matter logic.
and its true.

being "forgeted up in the head" from traumatic experiences are so loving first world problems lol. sheltered people who cant cope with reality and cant move on (because usually they dont have to)

its no secret, the abundance of professional victims all around us.

[XR-7]

    You know what, let's use my great uncle as an example. He was in the Vietnam war. When he got back he was declared insane. It couldn't have been the awful atrocities he witnessed in war that drove him insane, right? Nope. It was people saying to him: "Gee what you saw was awful I'm sure you are really beat up about that!" I understand that rape and going through a horrific war are not the same thing, but they are both psychologically damaging things.

tl:dr sympathy doesn't cause emotional development problems, tramatic events do. I'm really loving surprised I have to explain a concept so basic.

Bisjac doesn't believe in PTSD if my mind suits me right.

[Frequency]

I understand that rape and going through a horrific war are not the same thing, but they are both psychologically damaging things.

you literally just acknowledged that they're not the same. sure they are both psychologically damaging, but depending on the circumstances, one is easier to recover from than the other.

not to mention the fact that not everyone will handle everything in the same way or recover in the same way. that's one of the fundamental aspects of psychology.

tl:dr sympathy doesn't cause emotional development problems, tramatic events do. I'm really loving surprised I have to explain a concept so basic.

they both do sympathy? i'm surprised you think you're making a point.

[Bisjac]

nope. people needing a paycheck and a pat on the back for something long in the past that dosnt really affect thier life at all.

i dont acknowledge it.
and you can disagree all you want, those people never come out ahead in life, and for good reason.

[Headcrab Zombie]

beaten, and robbed

but that's not even what we're talking about here

read:

A psychologist told me exactly what Bisjac is saying now.  A dude who had experience actually dealing with these kids. Not some kid on a forum

machaty, a rape incident isn't torture

This. Remember not all rape involves beating the victim into submission. This is just statutory rape; it's rape because she can't legally consent, not because she was physically forced into it.
Obviously, if she was beaten, then that would be traumatic,  but the article doesn't give any indication (that i'm seeing) that she was

If a parent just gropes his child or something then yeah, that's wrong, and I'm not advocating decriminalization of it or anything, but the kid doesn't know that it's wrong. Probably feels good to the kid. So there's no trauma to be had until

everyone you live with constantly telling you how broken you have become and how weak and sick you are

sure, a certain amount necessary to bring the dude to justice, but nowhere near the amount they put them through
they're doing the right thing not letting her watch tv about herself

especially the first few sentences

[Machaty]

you literally just acknowledged that they're not the same. sure they are both psychologically damaging, but depending on the circumstances, one is easier to recover from than the other.

not to mention the fact that not everyone will handle everything in the same way or recover in the same way. that's one of the fundamental aspects of psychology.

they both do sympathy? i'm surprised you think you're making a point.

It's the same concept. It's both instances of pyscological trama. I was simply acknowledging the fact that the scale is certainly different. Also, that's quite a dissmissive reply. I laid out an entire brown townogy for you, and you respond with: "I'm surprised you think you're making a point" like seriously wtf. State your opinion, and back it up with logic. And yes, sympathy, as in treating someone who has gone through heavy stuff a way you would not normally treat them.

but that's not even what we're talking about here

Bisjac said that the actually trama didn't have any effect on the victims mental state. He was stating that as a general principle, not just in the case of this rape. Therefore, I'm allowed to use other tramatic experiences to help prove my point.

[Frequency]

And yes, sympathy, as in treating someone who has gone through heavy stuff a way you would not normally treat them.

sympathy, as i understand it, would not traumatize someone, so it's a good thing we weren't talking about sympathy:

the kid dosnt even know how to feel about it until a handful of adults beat it into their heads that something awful has happened to them!!!!!! and they must now cope!!!!!!! and they must now comprehend this specific spoonfed version of the event.

that is almost worse then letting them deal with it on their own lol.
and sure enough, they are forgeted up for life. because they were told they are. and they believe it.