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[MEGATHREAD] Fallout 4 || Contraption, Vault-Tec, Nuka World
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CypherX:

--- Quote from: Lord Tony® on November 28, 2015, 03:56:15 AM ---cater to casuals.

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Opinion immediately discarded.

Ammo crafting was a mediocre feature, I know it, you know it, everyone knows it. The only reason people are bitching about it is because 4 doesn't have it. If it did, there would be precisely zero people that cared enough to even mention it.

The only really lacking physical gameplay feature that I miss (excluding the old dialogue system; they tried something new and it didn't work, I'll bet it'll be back in Fallout 4.5 or 5) is different types of ammunition. It was nice to be able to cater my weapon damage to the people I was facing.

I'm a little disappointed with the weapons in the game tbh. The only handgun that's actually worth using is the .44, and once again Bethesda made its gun waifu the Gatling Laser objectively the best gun in the game. Beyond that, there just isn't a lot of diversity. I was pretty surprised that for all intents and purposes there is a whopping 3 ballistic assault rifles, and only 5 total assault rifles.

It's just... Idk. They set up a very good foundation for new Fallout titles, but its just that; a foundation. Hopefully Bethesda takes a page out of Obsidian's book for the next game or they just let Obsidian do the next one, and they build on what they've made.
HULKHOGANWWFWORLDCHAMPION:
If you could craft ammo then people would be crafting loads of cryo which would make the cryolater op af
Nonnel:
Obsidian knows Fallout better than Bethesda but Beth won't admit it and doesn't want everyone to know it as well as they do. I still hope they allow them to make another
Bushido:
the biggest thing i appreciate about bethesda fallout over classic fallout is that the gun design is goofy and fun

like i sort of miss actual traditional assault rifles but i like the idea that stupid bulky retro machine guns became the norm for the military and actual modern assault rifles are a relatively recent design that nobody trusts (except for maybe the NCR)

i'd like to see the 12.7mm pistol and smg, recharger rifle, service rifle (with mods to turn it into the assault/marksman carbine, lmg and ultimately bozar) and anti materiel rifle to return but on the whole fallout 1 and 2's approach toward guns was dull as forget and i want more stupid sci fi bullstuff
Lord Tony®:

--- Quote from: Rally on November 28, 2015, 01:09:48 PM ---

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I agree with everything, fallout 3 is terrible.


--- Quote from: Nonnel on November 28, 2015, 04:17:32 PM ---Obsidian knows Fallout better than Bethesda but Beth won't admit it and doesn't want everyone to know it as well as they do. I still hope they allow them to make another

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Bethesda only allows Obsidian to make what they consider as a spin off to Fallout 3. Which ironically Fallout 3 is a spinoff to fallout 2. However to Bethesda they consider Fallout 3 and 4 sequels, not spinoffs.




Bethesda killed fallout. I think Obsidian should personally give up and start trying to compete with Bethesda instead with like Wasteland 3 or something. It's bad enough Bethesda screwed Obsidian out of New Vegas royalties.
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