Who here dislikes trans people?

[Nal]

that means transgendered people are mentally unstable and shouldn't be making decisions about their body

having a mental illness doesn't make you unstable

[Ad Bot]

[-Jetz-]

being transgendered is a mental illness

It may have once made sense to consider being transgendered as a mental disorder, but if we live in an age where it's becoming more and more possible to resolve such cases by actually changing the person to the gender they want to be, why not do so?

that means transgendered people are mentally unstable and shouldn't be making decisions about their body

You're just making stuff up, aren't you?

[Decimation]

You're just making stuff up, aren't you?

no im not, every transgendered person i came across seems to be forgeted in the head

[·:Taboo:·]

The current medical approach to treatment for persons diagnosed with GID is to support the individual in physically modifying the body to better match the psychological gender identity.

which makes zero sense. you don't support a schizophrenic person by verifying their delusions or something, now do you?

The problem that a lot of transgendered have is that they might not be able to afford treatment, which is apparently quite expensive, so most don't ever get treatment.

this is kind of a given, because that's the case with pretty much any medical disorder

If one of your friends were to kindly tell you that they would be more comfortable if you called them say, a he instead of a she, what purpose would saying no have?

to not enable a mental condition to worsen, what kind of question even is that

If you think you have some sort of big breakthrough on how to "normal-fy" them, I'm sure a lot of psychologists would love to hear it. Until then, I'd rather put my faith in trained professionals.

i'm sure there are plenty of ways that it could be done, but too many moronic skeletons like yourself are hellbent on promoting and even glorifying a mental disorder, so anything proposed would be shot down immediately.

[HellHound]

which makes zero sense. you don't support a schizophrenic person by verifying their delusions or something, now do you?

Usually the goal of medicine is to heal people and make them more comfortable, wouldn't you think?

[-Jetz-]

which makes zero sense. you don't support a schizophrenic person by verifying their delusions or something, now do you?

It's not a delusion if it becomes true. If someone born female wants to be male, you can technically consider that a state of mental disorder. But, if their bodies are changed to be a male, then there is no longer any disorder. Cases where this has been properly done have shown to be successful, so why shouldn't it become the norm? It sounds like you're advocating the "beat them over the head with their own biological love until they accept who they are" alternative just to be an starfish. On what grounds do you believe that's the superior option besides "that makes zero sense?"

[Barnabas]

At the place I used to work there was a training organised for people working at various government agencies. Through that programme I had the pleasure of meeting of a trans woman who was well into her thirties and had undergone surgery. She was nice to talk to and we joked around a lot. Never once we touched the subject of her gender, though.

Being one of the few males at work made my female colleagues curious how she made me feel, whether I felt uneasy or confused when she was around. I told them I wasn't bothered at all.

Still being a trans woman in an almost derelict mining town is something that is quite risky. I heard she used to be beaten up multiple times just for being what she was.

[·:Taboo:·]

Usually the goal of medicine is to heal people and make them more comfortable, wouldn't you think?

you know those communities for supporting anorexics/bulimics/etc.? yeah, that's basically those on a larger and more mainstream scale. hell, if that's what you think, we may as well just euthanise people with cancer.

It's not a delusion if it becomes true.

no amount of hormones injections and surgeries will actually change your love.

If someone born female wants to be male, you can technically consider that a state of mental disorder. But, if their bodies are changed to be a male, then there is no longer any disorder.

that is not how mental disorders work, please stop talking

[Daedalus]

it's loving transgender, not transgendered
i wouldn't call myself maled, or my mom femaled

this forum has some pretty garbage folks on it, as much as i'd like to convince myself otherwise

[-Jetz-]

no amount of hormones injections and surgeries will actually change your love.
that is not how mental disorders work, please stop talking

So just to be clear, what part of the process of love reassignment are you covering your ears and denying? That it's physically possible? That it's been in practice for decades? That it's actually effective?

[DrenDran]

I don't dislike them but I believe there is a benefit to enforcing the gender binary. Also while I'm certainly not hostile to trans people I know they have not actually switched love.

[Ipquarx]

no amount of hormones injections and surgeries will actually change your love.

Well actually, yes, it will. Sure it won't change your DNA, but if you feel, look, and act like a member of that love then you are just as much a part of it as anyone else.

You also act like it's some terrible thing to want to be another love, when in reality it isn't. There is a huge difference between being morbidly obese or morbidly skinny and wanting to be a different love. The first two are actually unhealthy and put you at risk of heart attack and other complications, while the other is just in the head. There's also a difference between being schizophrenic and wanting to be a different love. One makes you have hallucinations and paranoia, the other just makes you uncomfortable in your body.

By agreeing to call them by their preferred gender, you're making them comfortable and helping them better control the discomfort they experience, it's as if you're giving them a bit of medicine to help them. Much different than telling a schizophrenic person their delusions are real, which instead of helping actually makes things worse.

[Aces]

I'd actually be interested in knowing some way to "cure" a transgender person besides actually transitioning and if it can be successful enough to use universally.

[Decimation]

it's loving transgender, not transgendered
i wouldn't call myself maled, or my mom femaled

this forum has some pretty garbage folks on it, as much as i'd like to convince myself otherwise

''its not transgendered its transgender, check your privilege stufflord''
what you sound like

[·:Taboo:·]

That it's physically possible?

you can jam as many needles into a person as you want, that won't change their love lol

That it's actually effective?

it makes them feel better about themselves by basically helping them lie to themselves; if that's what you want for them, then sure, it's effective lol