Author Topic: Existential CrCIA Megathread AKA you are you and i am me and i dont wanna die  (Read 4028 times)

what if you die you reincarnate but it's not time specific so you could reincarnate as like a child in 1965, but then after you die again it'd be another person so eventually you end up actually being EVERYONE ALWAYS?!?!?!

what if you die you reincarnate but it's not time specific so you could reincarnate as like a child in 1965, but then after you die again it'd be another person so eventually you end up actually being EVERYONE ALWAYS?!?!?!
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A person's personality is the result of the genes he/she was born with, and what you experienced growing up/going through life, and nothing more. All decisions you make are a combination of the environment, your genes, hormones, whatever medical complications you may have, and the experiences you have had in the past.

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A person's personality is the result of the genes he/she was born with, and what you experienced growing up/going through life, and nothing more. All decisions you make are a combination of the environment, your genes, hormones, whatever medical complications you may have, and the experiences you have had in the past.
Every possible action was decided at the moment of the big bang. With a big enough computer the size of a couple of universes you could calculate the exact position of all particles at any moment in time in the future. So free will is an illusion.

what if you die you reincarnate but it's not time specific so you could reincarnate as like a child in 1965, but then after you die again it'd be another person so eventually you end up actually being EVERYONE ALWAYS?!?!?!
I think about that too
but imagine in this life you're just a normal dude who goes on blf every so often but in the next life you're literally Riddler

ya know this would make for a good story if the person like remembers all his previous lives and tries to change history and the future
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ya know this would make for a good story if the person like remembers all his previous lives and tries to change history and the future
But if he'd remember there would be nothing to change as he'd just start steering it the way he wants from life number 1.

Every possible action was decided at the moment of the big bang. With a big enough computer the size of a couple of universes you could calculate the exact position of all particles at any moment in time in the future
No. You cannot. There is literally no way.

I can prove it as well through something called entropy and another thing called quantum mechanics.
Now, how much entropy there is in something is essentially how much information it carries.
Now, the 2nd law of thermodynamics states that as time passes, entropy must go up, which means more information is being added to the universe all the time.
This means that, if you were to know all the information in the universe at the time of the big bang, later on when more information has been added you no longer know everything since that information is actually added in randomly: that's where quantum mechanics comes into play.

At the atomic, scale, things stop being like what they were at the classical level. Particles like electrons and photons aren't physical things anymore, they're actually probabilities. You have a certain chance of finding a particle in one spot when you look and a certain chance of finding it in another spot if you look, but it's impossible to predict which it is without actually measuring. There is no formula to predict where it's going to be.
That is where entropy (and hence information) is introduced into the system. Even if you knew all the positions and velocities of all the particles right at the start of the big bang, all the information added would make it utterly impossible to predict where the universe would be later on.
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what if you die you reincarnate but it's not time specific so you could reincarnate as like a child in 1965, but then after you die again it'd be another person so eventually you end up actually being EVERYONE ALWAYS?!?!?!
There's a tiny short story thing about that that I read and it was okay

There's a tiny short story thing about that that I read and it was okay
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No. You cannot. There is literally no way.

I can prove it as well through something called entropy and another thing called quantum mechanics.
Now, how much entropy there is in something is essentially how much information it carries.
Now, the 2nd law of thermodynamics states that as time passes, entropy must go up, which means more information is being added to the universe all the time.
This means that, if you were to know all the information in the universe at the time of the big bang, later on when more information has been added you no longer know everything since that information is actually added in randomly: that's where quantum mechanics comes into play.

At the atomic, scale, things stop being like what they were at the classical level. Particles like electrons and photons aren't physical things anymore, they're actually probabilities. You have a certain chance of finding a particle in one spot when you look and a certain chance of finding it in another spot if you look, but it's impossible to predict which it is without actually measuring. There is no formula to predict where it's going to be.
That is where entropy (and hence information) is introduced into the system. Even if you knew all the positions and velocities of all the particles right at the start of the big bang, all the information added would make it utterly impossible to predict where the universe would be later on.
It just seems to make so much sense that if you know all starting conditions, and every rule/law that has to be followed with no exception you'd be able to figure out the state after x time has passed.
But I'm just a first years physics student so I know forget all.

It just seems to make so much sense that if you know all starting conditions, and every rule/law that has to be followed with no exception you'd be able to figure out the state after x time has passed.
But I'm just a first years physics student so I know forget all.
That would be the case if things at the quantum level obeyed classical physics, which they unfortunately do not. Einstein himself didn't like the idea of quantum mechanics at first, citing that "God doesn't play dice," but there has been over 100 years of studying gone into the field by now.

That would be the case if things at the quantum level obeyed classical physics, which they unfortunately do not. Einstein himself didn't like the idea of quantum mechanics at first, citing that "God doesn't play dice," but there has been over 100 years of studying gone into the field by now.
I don't get quantum until next year, but this does mean my Variables, Dimensions and Dynamics prof lied to my face.

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I don't get quantum until next year, but this does mean my Variables, Dimensions and Dynamics prof lied to my face.
To be fair, it doesn't quite discredit your statement of "free will being an illusion." Since decisions are made through the randomness of the universe, it technically qualifies as "Free will is actually random."