[RANT] huff. post being stupid about world wars 1 and 2 (LONG POST)

[Harm94]

I hate how history classes skimp over ww2. They never talk about the war, just the jews.

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[Camel]

gadzooks, this author is a dumbstuff

actually, that is a thing that bugs me about wwII - it seems that it just happened, but it's like the only war everyone remembers.

the holocaust, the atomic bomb, national socialists - stuff went down

[Jairo]

actually, that is a thing that bugs me about wwII - it seems that it just happened, but it's like the only war everyone remembers.

well I don't really blame people--world war two was massive. in more than one way

although tbh, I hear more talk about vietnam than I do ww2, but that's mostly because of all the baby boomers still prancing around

[Eden]

I hate how history classes skimp over ww2. They never talk about the war, just the jews.

Hm, I wonder why.

[SetGaming]

gadzooks, this author is a dumbstuff
the holocaust, the atomic bomb, national socialists - stuff went down

yeah, but the thing is that people only remember the disaster

it's really bad and all, but it seems like people never focus on the positive - in a science sense

[SetGaming]

well I don't really blame people--world war two was massive. in more than one way

although tbh, I hear more talk about vietnam than I do ww2, but that's mostly because of all the baby boomers still prancing around

huh weird, I never hear about vietnam

[Ceist]

whenever you talk about the cold-war there's a lot of talk about vietnam. Not so much for Korea, the Shah or the tension between the US and USSR outside of Cuba.

[Jairo]

whenever you talk about the cold-war there's a lot of talk about vietnam. Not so much for Korea, the Shah or the tension between the US and USSR outside of Cuba.

I really do think it's an injustice that korea gets so overshadowed

it's a very interesting back-and-forth type of conflict, too

[Katadeus]

Nothing like a good rebuttal
Well done

[Harm94]

Hm, I wonder why.

Also they only cite Germany and the jews. Their were other victims being sent to the camps as well, but those always get left out. Other countries also collaborated willingly with Germany like France(Allies), Romania(Axis/Allies), Hungary(Axis), and USSR and just gave up their jews willingly.

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

excellent to read, ty jairo
it really irks me that to date, ive never had a history class that gave two stuffs about the world wars. we learned about them, but never went as in-depth as say, imperialism

[Plethora]

I agree with you that most of that article is bunk, and I can also say that other events in that century can hold a candle to the assassination.  I do agree with you that it was inevitable; you could see the dominoes lining up from as far back as Napoleon if I remember my AP Euro well enough.

However, in defense of the importance of WW I, it was an extreme escalation in the nature of warfare and in the scope and magnitude of its effects in the West, both in physical destruction and the annihilation of the prior western worldview.  The assassination of the archduke wasn't the only instigator of the war, but it is widely recognized as the spark that lit the powder.  The importance of that war at least, if not that assassination, should not be underplayed by any means.
I wish that class had been more on topic, perhaps more focus could have been given to the wars and less to Ted talks on unrelated mumbo jumbo.

It is a real shame that a lot of wars get skimmed over in history classes considering their enormous importance from just about any perspective.
My High School World History teacher has a poster titled "The Forgotten War" about Korea hanging on his wall; we didn't even cover Korea for a full day in APUSH.

[Jairo]

excellent to read, ty jairo

thanks. tune in next sunday to see swastika-kun get pissed all over again

it really irks me that to date, ive never had a history class that gave two stuffs about the world wars. we learned about them, but never went as in-depth as say, imperialism

yeah I never really understood why the world wars are so overlooked in history classes. it's pretty lame imo that two conflicts dubbed for their wide-reaching theatrical strategies is just skimmed in favor of the columbian cake carving contest. not that I meant to discredit the importance of imperialism, however, just that I think it should receive equal recognition (especially in an american history classes)

However, in defense of the importance of WW I, it was an extreme escalation in the nature of warfare and in the scope and magnitude of its effects in the West, both in physical destruction and the annihilation of the prior western worldview.  The assassination of the archduke wasn't the only instigator of the war, but it is widely recognized as the spark that lit the powder.  The importance of that war at least, if not that assassination, should not be underplayed by any means.

I didn't mean to come off like I was downplaying the significance of the first world war, I was just poking fun at the author's supposed belief of its supremacy over any other world event. I am a little miffed that beliefs like his are commonly misconstrued due to a lack of proper history classes, however

and yeah, my history class didn't even spend ten minutes on the korean war--or really any far eastern conflict--now that I think about it. mao zedong's rise to power and subsequent policies are ignored, the sino-soviet split, even parts of vietnam and the reconstruction of south korea and japan. it's really a shame

[ZombiLoin]

I really think it's a bit of a demographics issue because here in NYC (my history class was at least 30% Chinese) we spent nearly a month on Nationalist China, the Long March, and Mao Zedong's rise of power, including the Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward.

[Harm94]

The holocaust was a pretty big deal, but even then groups like the gypies are often omitted from the books. The holocaust was much more than the jews, it was pretty much everyone the national socialists decided to condemn. Even then we spend too much time talking about the holocaust, mostly about the camps themselves and the jews rather than the countries besides Germany that took part in it.

Too much gets skimmed while they repeat the same little bits of information every year.

maybe if I live long enough I'll right a well sourced book worthy for academics