Author Topic: Feminism for a grade. (Read 7680 times)

XR-7 · August 24, 2015, 11:59:02 AM

Quote from: Taciturn on August 24, 2015, 10:56:55 AM

I was a little upset when my English teacher in junior year turned out to be a feminist, but it was because I hear enough about feminism already and I don't want a whole class on it when the internet is bursting with the stuff.

Maybe that's what OP means?

You're confusing feminists and feminational socialists

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MoltenKitten · August 24, 2015, 12:06:51 PM

Feminism isn't bad though, feminational socialistsm is bad

Ipquarx · August 24, 2015, 12:36:57 PM

Quote from: Darryl McKoy on August 24, 2015, 05:44:15 AM

I covered off feminism in uni not that long ago and I don't recall all this insurmountable evidence proving there is no gender gap.

i'm not entirely sure what you mean by gender gap but if you mean the wage gap that was debunked a long time ago

Doomonkey · August 24, 2015, 02:26:47 PM

Quote from: Ipquarx on August 24, 2015, 12:36:57 PM

i'm not entirely sure what you mean by gender gap but if you mean the wage gap that was debunked a long time ago

Census data, debunked!

Ipquarx · August 24, 2015, 02:39:19 PM

Yes, that's the one that was debunked. https://youtu.be/BDj_bN0L8XM

otto-san · August 24, 2015, 04:27:22 PM

it definitely shows a gap in employment for higher-paying jobs, but that's not active discrimination as much as it is gender roles doing what they do

�:Taboo:� · August 24, 2015, 04:38:11 PM

Quote from: Mouse droidz 21 on August 24, 2015, 07:31:43 AM

OT: But what the hell does it have to do with English? shouldn't feminism be put in History/social studies? How is that even allowed?

Uh, have you never attended high school? Literature is, you know, about things. Things that usually matter.

Zay · August 24, 2015, 04:46:34 PM

Quote from: sir dooble on August 24, 2015, 09:17:18 AM

Out of curiosity what material would you expect to have that shows a different side?
I can't think of anything respectable that would challenge the idea of giving women equal rights at home, work, school and in life.

this

Ipquarx · August 24, 2015, 04:47:31 PM

Quote from: otto-san on August 24, 2015, 04:27:22 PM

it definitely shows a gap in employment for higher-paying jobs, but that's not active discrimination as much as it is gender roles doing what they do

There's definitely a much higher amount of loveual discrimination in the extremely high up positions like board of directors, CSO, CEO, etc. And this can be plainly seen as over 80% of the top 1% of americans (which control almost half of the money in america) are men. I'm all but certain that that's where the majority of the original 20-23% figure comes from in the first place. Thankfully, that statistic is improving more and more each year.

Mouse droidz 21 · August 24, 2015, 04:59:16 PM

Quote from: �:Taboo:� on August 24, 2015, 04:38:11 PM

Uh, have you never attended high school? Literature is, you know, about things. Things that usually matter.

Well we don't teach that stuff in my country and I'm in high school/secondary school

Nomel · August 24, 2015, 05:03:28 PM

women work less and cost more moneys for the company, of course they're going to have lower salaries

otto-san · August 24, 2015, 05:04:33 PM

Quote from: Mouse droidz 21 on August 24, 2015, 04:59:16 PM

Well we don't teach that stuff in my country and I'm in high school/secondary school

what he's saying is that literature represents ideas. every piece of literature has themes, and those themes are significant to our world today. every author is influenced by their environment and their beliefs, and so it's only natural that their works will reflect those elements. any literature teacher worth their salary will tell you that.

Quote from: Nomel on August 24, 2015, 05:03:28 PM

women work less and cost more moneys for the company, of course they're going to have lower salaries

lol

�:Taboo:� · August 24, 2015, 05:06:14 PM

Quote from: Mouse droidz 21 on August 24, 2015, 04:59:16 PM

Well we don't teach that stuff in my country and I'm in high school/secondary school

You're not taught that literature has meaning? Are you in the Congo or something?

Tokthree · August 24, 2015, 05:08:00 PM

Quote from: �:Taboo:� on August 24, 2015, 05:06:14 PM

You're not taught that literature has meaning? Are you in the Congo or something?

I think I recall him saying he lives in the UK, and as someone who also lives in the UK and has actually completed his high-school eduction I can say that he is, without a doubt, completely wrong

BubbaGum · August 24, 2015, 05:31:28 PM

most of the ppl in this thread actually surprised me by how aware they are of what feminism actually is
good on u