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Programming Megathread
ZSNO:
--- Quote from: blueblur121 on May 12, 2016, 08:25:02 PM ---Anything an IDE can do can be achieved without one.
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Yes, you can do anything an IDE can do without one. The point is you're wasting your time if you have to constantly be switching the tools you're using.
--- Quote from: blueblur121 on May 12, 2016, 08:25:02 PM ---I don't care about what your professors say.
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You should probably lose that attitude really fast if you plan on learning anything.
blueblur121:
--- Quote from: ZSNO on May 12, 2016, 08:34:06 PM ---Yes, you can do anything an IDE can do without one. The point is you're wasting your time if you have to constantly be switching the tools you're using.
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Switching between them isn't even an issue if you're using a decent WM and terminal.
--- Quote from: ZSNO on May 12, 2016, 08:34:06 PM ---You should probably lose that attitude really fast if you plan on learning anything.
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Sorry, I was keeping the "fight me" thing going.
ZSNO:
Btw, you do realize that emacs is literally used as an example of an IDE on Wikipedia, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment#History
McJob:
--- Quote from: blueblur121 on May 12, 2016, 08:25:02 PM ---
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My point is that the role of an IDE is to make your life easier and faster. We're often working on massive applications with thousands of lines of code, and so it helps to have tools directly integrated into your editor and a bunch of useful features that you can take advantage of if you'd like.
You probably won't use all the tools given, like Steve doesn't really care for autocomplete and I don't really use Visual Studio's GitHub/Emulator stuff, but you have to admit that's really handy to have the options available to you at least, mate.
blueblur121:
--- Quote from: ZSNO on May 12, 2016, 08:47:12 PM ---Btw, you do realize that emacs is literally used as an example of an IDE on Wikipedia, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment#History
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It's listed as an extensible editor that is commonly used as an IDE. That supports something I said earlier, that emacs is a text editor that can be made to have the features and functionality of an IDE. The same thing applies to vim for those who use it.
EDIT: Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment#Attitudes_across_different_computing_platforms
--- Quote --- Unix programmers can combine command-line POSIX tools into a complete development environment, capable of developing large programs such as the Linux kernel and its environment.[4] The free software GNU tools (GNU Compiler Collection (GCC), GNU Debugger (gdb), and GNU make) are available on many platforms, including Windows.[5] Developers who favor command-line oriented tools can use editors with support for many of the standard Unix and GNU build tools, building an IDE with programs like Emacs[6][7][8] or Vim.
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I guess it depends on your definition of IDE.