Author Topic: Paris Massacre: 4+ shootings, 3+ kamikaze, 1 hostage taking: Atleast 129 dead  (Read 51612 times)

This isn't a loving video game. A bullet is a bullet and if you can aim and shoot a person, they're gonna go down. It just takes one good shot.
You're right. It's not a video game. Better to only engage the terrorists as an absolute last resort.

You're right. It's not a video game. Better to only engage the terrorists as an absolute last resort.

Damned if you do damned if you don't.

what im trying to say here is
its not smart to engage terrorists using automatic weapons with civilian arms
keep your head down and stay in a defensive position
You don't know what a loving gun is for do you?

There is no line between guns. People CARRY loving pistols for self defense. Even in the face of automatic fire i would be at least THANKFUL for a chance to shoot back if i survive the initial open fire and if i cannot escape WHATSOEVER.

You don't know what a loving gun is for do you?

There is no line between guns. People CARRY loving pistols for self defense. Even in the face of automatic fire i would be at least THANKFUL for a chance to shoot back if i survive the initial open fire.
i own a colt 1911 lmao i know what a gun is

This isn't a loving video game. A bullet is a bullet and if you can aim and shoot a person, they're gonna go down. It just takes one good shot.
It doesn't always take, "just one shot," to drop someone and if there are multiple shooters they can quickly turn their sights on you. Using a handgun is a lot more difficult than you'd think even with training; it is no replacement for a rifle that the shooters would have.

Many muslims feel marginalised because people like you think that being islamic is synonymous to being a member of an extremist group.

I don't think they're all extremists, but they're usually the first ones to defend it when stuff hits the fan.

I don't see why we need Islam in first world countries. I don't get it. It's not an ethnicity or a race or a loveuality or something you're loving born with, it's a religion, I know people who flip flop between religions every month because they can't decide if they feel comfortable praying before dinner yet these people will consistently defend Islam through thick and thin no matter how many people are massacred in it's name.

All Muslims might not be extremists but where do you think CIA is recruiting from? Islam is the lowest common denominator here. I don't see a reason why I should be tolerant of this ideology in places it's neither wanted or needed.

Marginalised youth often turn to organised crime groups to seek a sense of belonging - it's an established and well researched area of criminology. The same exact thing is happening with extremist muslim groups. CIA is a brand, their target market is marginalised youth and their product is terror.

I don't see how this proves they're outraged by extremist actions. If Islamic youth are feeling marginalized I fail to see how the blame falls to anyone except Islam itself. I moved to this country very recently with no friends and no clue and I already feel like I belong. Probably because I'm not feeling 'pushed' to massacre people.

i own a colt 1911 lmao i know what a gun is
Then you should know better than to post that kind of bullstuff lol

Then you should know better than to post that kind of bullstuff lol

It doesn't always take, "just one shot," to drop someone and if there are multiple shooters they can quickly turn their sights on you. Using a handgun is a lot more difficult than you'd think even with training.

i assure you im not engaging multiple shooters that have automatic weapons with a .45 pistol

So you don't think that by trying to undermine their religion, you might actually further marginalise them and push more youth to join CIA?
That's a good point, but I rarely speak out against CIA or Islam. The main reason I replied in this thread was because I noticed someone stating as fact that even though CIA is doing these attacks, that Muhammad claimed that Muslims should be tolerant of all religions, which isn't true - there's no record of that and the Quran never claims that. There were other misconceptions as well stated after; I do my best to keep up on current events, as well as information about Islam and other religions, and just wanted to share it so people would be informed.

This issue also "hits home" so to speak because Christians right now are being raped, tortured, crucified and attacked in the Middle East (as I mentioned before) by CIA under Islamic teachings. There are also horror stories of those who try to leave the religion.

That isn't even close to "basically a civil war". F*** dude, it's not even any kind of war. It's a political issue. That's all.
nice one
Honestly that's not even an issue, I agree Europe is not in any war with the refugees. I was pointing out the tension of Europe against the immigrants, and used the term "civil war" because the that's the direction Europe could be heading if nothing is done soon. Perhaps I should have used different terminology, but I didn't see a problem with it at the time.

I feel like the issue isn't that people are converting to it, but that some groups are using violence and terror as a method to drive conversions.
I understand where you're coming from. There are moderate Muslims who don't carry out attacks like this and do want peace, but I think the real question is, what was Muhammad trying to achieve? To me, Islam seems like a religion that sees itself as being dominant above all other religions, and was to establish that dominance.
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This doesn't mean anything. The point of a handgun is to fight back when you've run out of options regardless of being outgunned. You have no idea what you're saying at all.

This doesn't mean anything. The point of a handgun is to fight back when you've run out of options regardless of being outgunned. You have no idea what you're saying at all.
yes the person that owns the loving gun doesn't know what hes doing
nice one
i told you already, get in a defensive position and hold yourself down
im not going out of my way to try and combat terrorists when they're attacking

its not smart to engage terrorists using automatic weapons with civilian arms

A bullet is a bullet. Even the most "inferior civilian handgun" is enough to kill someone. Did you know that even "inferior civilian handguns" can actually penetrate kevlar armor with armor piercing bullets?

i assure you im not engaging multiple shooters that have automatic weapons with a .45 pistol

A .45 has some pretty decent loving stopping power. You may not get out alive, but I'd want to take out the piece of stuff with me.

yes the person that owns the loving gun doesn't know what hes doing
nice one
i told you already, get in a defensive position and hold yourself down
im not going out of my way to try and combat terrorists when they're attacking
I own multiple firearms as well. It's user discretion on whether or not to engage true, but i'm confident that in a situation with multiple armed people (even with handguns) they would seek to fight back. Thats the whole point of a handgun. Portable protection.

It's user discretion on whether or not to engage
then why is everyone getting on my case when all i've said is i think its not smart to engage terrorists with civilian arms, and i would put myself in a defensive position, and not go out of my way to engage them?